Olympic National Anthem

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by trumpetmike, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. trumpetmike

    trumpetmike Active Member

    Has anyone else listened to the hideous rehashing of the National Anthem (which we are hearing so often at the Olympics) and asked themselves "WHY?!?!?!?"

    The more worrying thought is that I am sure there are some arrangers out there who are now going to produce a brass band rehash of the rehash.

    Is it just me who has had this thought?
    Is there any way to stop them?
    (aside from musical taste - which never seems to worry some arrangers)
     
  2. Will the Sec

    Will the Sec Active Member

    The way to ensure that no one arranges something, Mike, surely, is not to state publically that they shouldn't....
     
  3. Bungle

    Bungle Member

    Previously all anthems were re-arranged at each olympics but this years are going to be reused, so we are going to be stuck with it for the next couple.
     
  4. stephenmrry

    stephenmrry Member

    Have a look at the video below that might shed some light on your question. I won't have to worry about hearing the Irish anthem anytime soon although we do have a great chance in the boxing. Anyway that video might explain some of your questions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmJHHp3Q1Hw
     
  5. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    (I think you kind of missed the point there Stephen....)

    Anyhoo, to answer Mike, no you definitely aren't alone! I've heard (and seen - on Twitbook etc) an awful lot of people talking about how awful Philip Sheppard's arrangement is, but have yet to hear even one person defending or praising it.

    I'd like to think common sense and a little dollop of musical sense will prevail and the majority of bands will continue to use the versions they and their audiences know and love. Fingers crossed eh!
     
  6. iancwilx

    iancwilx Active Member

    Number 61 !

    ~ Mr Wilx
     
  7. Will the Sec

    Will the Sec Active Member

    Worryingly, when interviewed by Chris Evans on the Radio 2 breakfast show, Philip Sheppard was asked if the Queen had approved it - the answer was "The Royal Household approved it". Anecdotely, I have heard that the Queen is not tone deaf (the usual test being "Can you tell the difference between God Save the Queen and Stairway to Heaven" If you can you are not tone deaf...), but it seems that someone in the Royal Household is.
     
  8. trumpetmike

    trumpetmike Active Member

    That is a far cry from "yes, that is fantastic" coming straight from the Queen's lips, lol.
    They were hardly likely to say "off with his head."

    And yes Alex - I am hoping for some musical sense and restraint from the brass band arranging community - I fear I may hope in vain.
     
  9. GJG

    GJG Active Member

    Bring back capital punishment for treason, I say ...

    Mind you, we should be grateful; his version of the US anthem is even worse ...

    Seriously, it's appalling; he ignores all basic principles of harmony, and masquerades as a "professor" of music at the RCM ... ?

    ... would have been better off using the Stan Kenton version (for those who are wondering, it's here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXKNItauCQ8 ) ... at least it's harmonically sound, even if a little "colourful" ...

    (for those who are also wondering, of course I haven't done a brass band version ... )
     
  10. Rapier

    Rapier Supporting Member

    I read on a US based site, that they are not too pleased with their Anthem either. And that's being polite.
     
  11. Brian Bowen

    Brian Bowen Active Member

    I very much doubt Phillip Shephard is "Professor of Music" at the Royal Academy of Music. Maybe professor of cello: that's a whole different matter. I've heard only his arrangements of the USA, Australian and British anthems (I live in the USA). Based on what I've heard it's difficult to understand why he was chosen for this prestigious assignment. If a student had submitted them, I think there'd have been lots of red ink all over them.

    And what's the deal about the LPO recording them in the same Abbey Road studio that the Beatles used. The LPO were recording at Abbey Road before the Beatles were born!
     
  12. its_jon

    its_jon Member

    Never liked it anyway.
    Anything that cheer's it up is welcome.

    but

    I think it should be changed to something more inspired when we loose the Queen (whenever), and potentially the union itself in 2014.
    It has often been said theat 'Jerusalem' is a more fitting song both musically and lyrically for Englands national anthem. :clap:

    HERE is Jerusalem

    For Scotland I would nominate "On the Turning Away - by the classic band Pink Floyd" :tup Based purely on its sentiment, Scottishness and emotive message.
    However... I think Flower of Scotland may have grown strong roots by now. :pig

    So as not to scare people with a rock band on a brass band forum... here is a cover :metal:

    [video=youtube;qhMVyf_fU-U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhMVyf_fU-U[/video]
     
  13. stevetrom

    stevetrom Active Member

    Just heard the USA national anthem.

    It's even worse than ours, sounds like a 12 year old asked to give the tune to everyone somewhere in 32 bars.
     
  14. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

  15. eflatbass

    eflatbass Supporting Member

  16. trumpetmike

    trumpetmike Active Member

  17. cornetcheese

    cornetcheese Member

    Shame Stravinsky wasn't around to arrange the Olympic Anthems...

    Although according to "urban legend" he was arrested for re-harmonising the Star-Spangled Banner as apparently this was illegal?! I think this may have been his exaggeration though, much like the infamous "Rite of Spring" riot...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHYCqFfpNGQ
     
  18. Ianroberts

    Ianroberts Member

    the bloke is a philastine ! its not the National Anthem without the "Ta da da da"
     
  19. T Winch

    T Winch Member

    To which my kids insist on singing "And Prince Philip!" :D
     
  20. iancwilx

    iancwilx Active Member

    Brill !

    ~ Mr Wilx
     

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