National Finals 2008 - 4th Section Test Piece : Shipbuilders

Discussion in 'The Adjudicators' Comments' started by Di, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. Di

    Di Active Member

    National Finals 2008
    Fourth Section Test Piece

    The Shipbuilders Suite for Brass Band
    by Peter York
    Chappell, distributed by Studio Music London
  2. dlls2275

    dlls2275 New Member

    Fantastic choice, only wish we had qualified. Good luck to all competing bands.
  3. Pythagoras

    Pythagoras Active Member

    Glad I'm not playing.One of my least favourite test pieces. I remember when there was talk of Killamarsh contesting our chairman getting this out. I think it had the effect he desired!
  4. Padstow

    Padstow New Member

    This will test the bands. You have been warned!
  5. Masterblaster jnr

    Masterblaster jnr Active Member

    Just looked at the Solo Horn Part :cry: :dunno:eek: . do the national finals provide a double bed with 2 pillows, i think i'll need It! :frown:

    Let down of the century for me, although its apparently quite a nice piece (i'll have plenty of time to listen to it whilst gazing into the roof and getting unbelievably bored with my part)
  6. Will the Sec

    Will the Sec Active Member

    I think there is a LOT more to find in the piece, including in the solo horn part, than you're giving Peter York credit for.

    Revisit your comments after 3 months' practice, and the performance young MBj, as see if your comments still stand up.
  7. Masterblaster jnr

    Masterblaster jnr Active Member

    i can only see currently that the 3rd movement is going to be a challenge, but then i don't know the piece so i don'yt know how much stamina i'll need for the last movement.
  8. I think its a good choice. Feel sorry for the back row cornets tho, that have to play a lot of top A's and its quite a challenging piece for the fourth section. Good luck to all the bands playing this.
  9. MattB

    MattB Member

    Its an interesting choice alright! I think personally they could have slipped up though. How many of the cream of 4th section bands will realistically have much of a problem with this after a couple of weeks? Sure, there are some technical and tonal demands, but all the top bands in the section have that sorted anyway (or certainly SHOULD do!).

    I like the piece, dont get me wrong, just a bit surprised to see it as a Finals test piece. Considering the standard of the own choices of the bands who win local contests I think this may prove a bit boring!
  10. Flugel Boy

    Flugel Boy New Member

    There's a lot to commend in Peter Yorke's works and The Shipbuilders is one of my favourites. Not too taxing for the players, but an interesting listen for the audience and chock full of musical "traps". There's a world of difference between being able to play something and performing it. This piece, whether or not the individual parts are challenging, requires a performance to win.
  11. What were you expedting for the 4th section Jonny....Journey into freedom? Maybe you should join a better band as your obviously far, far too good for the lowly 4th section! Honestly..... :|
  12. Masterblaster jnr

    Masterblaster jnr Active Member

    Something a bit more modern, (not saying old is bad), and something which isnt just quavers and offbeats.

    It seems obvious you don't really know of last years 4th section piece. Modern, something in for all the parts, nice to listen to and challenging. it seems the Shipbuilders, i'm guessing it's nice on the ear, but looks like a standard, Cornet has tune, euph has tune, back row has the high parts, horns have quavers and um chucks etc etc.

    Bring back Roman Tryptych I say.
  13. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    I admire the optimism guys! Plenty of 3rd section bands underestimated it at their peril when it was set for the areas in 93, and I don't think standards in the lower sections have changed that drastically since then.

    That said, I personally hate the piece.... have fun! :tongue:
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2008
  14. Seaweed

    Seaweed Member

    I know i dont like the top A's! At the end of the rehearsal and the condustor says - lets have a quick run through this....

    Rest of the piece seems ok as test pieces go.
  15. ian perks

    ian perks Active Member

    Ive heard it many times and its a great piece.
    Only ever played it once and that was at a concert with the first band i ever played for that was when we were a second section band i played the 2nd Baritone part a real treat to play.
    This will prove to be a good test for 4th section bands and will give many hours of enjoyment during practise times both at home and at band +SECTIONALS!!!!!!!!!.
    May the best band win.
  16. mikelyons

    mikelyons Supporting Member

    Hasn't this been a 4th section testpiece before? I seem to remember playing it a long, long time ago. It's a nice piece. I enjoyed playing it, but why not a new piece?
  17. andyh

    andyh Supporting Member

    We played it in the third section at Butlins 2005. I seem to remember that the basses and trombones can win or lose the contest for a band in the opening bars. No pressure, then ... :)

  18. yank67

    yank67 Member

    That must be why Woodbridge did so well, Great bass players!;)
  19. andyh

    andyh Supporting Member

  20. kajoh8

    kajoh8 New Member

    The shipbuilders

    Does anyone know if there are any changes/additions to original publication of The Shipbuilder Suite. ie:- do we need to buy a new set??