Who is/are the 13th band in the Midlands 2nd section area contest? 12 Bands played last year, 2 promoted, 2 relegated, 2 dropped in from 1st section, 2 come up from 3rd section. So where did the 13th band come from?

Following the MABBC website, we have 12 listed on BBR (I know you've been looking there today, I picked up your feedbacks!): http://brassbandresults.co.uk/contests/midlands-area-second-section/2014-03-09/ The MABBC website source: http://mabbc.org/grading-tables/second-section/ What's your source for a 13th band? Edit: Ah, presumably this? http://mabbc.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/area2014timings.pdf

Championship section has 11 instead of the expected 12. First section has 17 instead of the expected 18. Second section has 13 instead of the expected 12. Third section has 17 instead of the expected 19. Fourth has 20 when 26 are in the grading table, but that seems reasonable enough. It's tempting to try to conclude that somebody's been moved up or down (probably up) to rebalance section numbers, but there are a lot of hidden variables in that set of changing numbers. Best to ring up the MABBC and ask, I think. If you do find out the answer, let BBR know. If the numbers as they appear to be are all correct, it would be very interesting to know which championship band hasn't entered.

I think it may be Shipston. When the two highest third section bands have been promoted the Shipston will be top of the table so may well have been promoted as well, to even out the numbers. Plus on their website it gives the date of the contest as the Sunday - which is the date for the 2nd section. The third section takes place on the Saturday. So may well have found your answer - but could be wrong .....

That could well be the case - the promotions listed on the 4th section page of the MABBC are already known to be incomplete - in addition to the two automatically promoted bands (Cleobury Mortimer and Warwick University), the next three (Melton, Moulton 77, and Market Rasen) have also been raised a section, and are in the 3rd this year. I've dropped Dave Birch at Shipston an email to see if he can confirm.

i am just wondering when the pre-contest tabkles will be published. Yorkshire have theirs up already !!

You could always grow your own. It's fairly straightforward. Midlands 2nd section would go something like: [TABLE="width: 500"] [TR] [TD]Name[/TD] [TD]2012[/TD] [TD]2013[/TD] [TD]Total[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Daventry[/TD] [TD]5.5P[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]8.5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bakewell[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ibstock[/TD] [TD]5.5P[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]10.5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Brackley[/TD] [TD]5.5R[/TD] [TD]6.5R[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tintwistle[/TD] [TD]5.5R[/TD] [TD]6.5R[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Arrow Valley[/TD] [TD]5.5P[/TD] [TD]6.5P[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE="width: 500"] [TR] [TD]Ireland Colliery[/TD] [TD]5.5P[/TD] [TD]6.5P[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Shipston[/TD] [TD]5.5P[/TD] [TD]6.5P[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE="width: 500"] [TR] [TD]Long Eaton[/TD] [TD]5.5P[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]12.5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Matlock[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Avonbank Evesham[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Amington[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]16[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Shirland[/TD] [TD]5.5R[/TD] [TD]11[/TD] [TD]16.5[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Apologies for the dodgy formatting...

Thank you folks for your input. Strange that pre-contest information is not or will not be made officially available.

Thats because it is not needed to be looked at by the Regional committee; they work out the league table after the contest and publish that along with promotions and relegations to all competing bands. Task completed till after the next Regional contest.

well here is my unofficial table [TABLE="width: 455"] [TR] [TD]BAND[/TD] [TD]2012[/TD] [TD]2013[/TD] [TD]2014[/TD] [TD]Total[/TD] [TD]Position[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Daventry[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]8.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bakewell[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ibstock[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]10.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Arrow Valley[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]6.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Brackley[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]6.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ireland Colliery[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]6.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tintwhistle[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]6.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Shipston[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]6.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Long Eaton[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]12.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Avonbank[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Matlock[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Amington[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]16[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Shirland[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]11[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]16.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]No.of Bands (Play)[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Average Position[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]6.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]No.of Bands (Prog)[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD]13[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]