Middle Lane Drivers

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by savewaterdrinkbeer, May 19, 2007.

  1. Does it anoy any one else when you get idiots on the motorway that:

    1. Always drive in the middle lane even though the motorway is clear in the 1st lane they just sit in the middle.

    i know ur not supposed to undertake but when it really gets on my nerves i just go past them in the 1st lane. Why move over three lanes when you can get past in the lane your in?

    2. Driving with no lights on in bad wheather conditions

    3. not turning full beam headlights off when aproching another car., i've got to the stage now where i wait for the other car to turn their headlights off.

    does anyone else have any views or any other irritating things that get on their nerves about driving?
  2. gawber

    gawber Active Member

    Yes it annoys me when drivers hog the middle lane but I would never undertake for fear of an accident.

    Driving without lights in bad weather conditions is dangerous. I used to drive a dark grey escort and it was difficult enough to see it on good day never mind in poor weather conditions.

    I wouldn't endorse keeping your full beam on until the other driver dips theirs, it's bad enough one of you being blinded but the thought of both drivers being dazzled by the beam is an accident just waiting to happen.
  3. TheMusicMan

    TheMusicMan tMP Founder Staff Member

    Though I agree with your frustrations, I have to say that you shouldn't resort to waiting until they turn their main beam off before you do. Sorry to say but that's the attitude that has caused the current situation; what if everyone did that...? no-one would turn their beams off. Just turn them off when you need to, you'll be safer, as will other drivers.

    I can illustrate an analogy for playing in a band... consider this. If you can hear that the band is out of tune - then you listen and adjust accordingly. If everyone did that when they heard something being played out of tune, then the band would always be in tune yeah :)
  4. i know i very rarely do undertake as its against the law but it just so frustrating when you have to move over three lanes when the idiot could just move over.

    there were plenty of drivers doing it today on the way to blackpool.

    and i have just thought of another, when driving on a single track road the car in front doing 20mph and when u try to overtake they speed up.

    i had this when i went to butlins in jan
  5. Ipswich trom

    Ipswich trom Member

    The thing i hate most on dual carriageways and motorways are lorries that overteke , normally going uphill and at about 0.1 mph faster then the lorry they are overtaking. I am sure they do it deliberately. Forget road charging, just banning lorries from the outside lane would save numerous delays.

    I recently drove in Belgium and Holland and was pleasanty surprised to find that during the morning and evening rush hous lorries are in fact restricted to the inside lane.

    Bring this in here, now!!!!
  6. JessopSmythe

    JessopSmythe Active Member

    Lorries are already excluded from the outside lane on 3 lane motorways. Restricting all lorries to the inside lane only would be counter productive. You'd end up with a solid lane moving at 56mph making it very difficult to join or leave the motorways.

    As for trucks overtaking there are very good technical reasons for them wanting to do it. A truck engine is at it's most efficient within a certain rev band. If a lightly loaded truck reduces speed when it catches up with a heavier one on a hill, it will suffer a drop in fuel efficiency. Since an average 44 tonner does about 7.5 miles to the gallon, squeezing every last fraction of an mpg is vital to a haulage operation. The reason that the overtake can often take so long is mainly down to Brussels. The UK speed limit for trucks on the motorway is 60 Mph yet an EU directive states that all vehicles over 3.5tonnes must be restricted to 56 Mph

    As someone who works in the transport industry, it really annoys me when people try to blame all the traffic problems on trucks. You should be grateful that, in the face of so much anti truck legislation etc so many operators are prepared to stick at it. Just how do you think that all the stuff you expect to find in the supermarkets gets there?
  7. Hornblower RN

    Hornblower RN Member

    I also worked in the Truck/trailer/bus industry for nearly 30 years and have experienced all the situations listed above however it doesn't excuse HGV drivers taking over a mile or even two miles to overtake another HGV.......leaving a line of, what could have been fast moving, traffic dawdling in it's wake It also doesn't excuse drivers passing on the inside lane when motorists drive in the centre lane. I appreciate it is frustrating but remember Big Brother is watching.
  8. michellegarbutt

    michellegarbutt Supporting Member

    My pet hate is drivers tailgating me. If they want to get into my back seat why have their own car. Mr favourite way of dealing with them during the day is to flick my side lights on. They usually think I'm breaking and drop back.
  9. Andy Cooper

    Andy Cooper Member

    Quite right. IMHO truck drivers should be given a fixed penalty in these cases for causing an obstruction. And as for that comment in the other about things in supermarkets, I notice already a large number of haulage firms (Stobarts, Malcolms for eg) are transferring their long hauls to rail (daventry - Scotland) with their own branded locomotives.

    And as for middle lane hoggers - they should receive a ban!

    But I would say that the biggest hold ups on the roads, particularly driving into Manchester is buses!! (and I have to drive in as i have to use my car for work purposes each day, aint got an alternative!)
  10. TheMusicMan

    TheMusicMan tMP Founder Staff Member

    Thing is Piers, as with the case with smokers... it's not necessarily the act of smoking that one finds offensive, more the attitude of the smoker.

    I fully understand that HGV drivers need to consider fuel efficiency and drive accordingly, but in the main it's their attitude that stinks. They apparently don't give a sh1t that they often take in excess of 5 mins and well over 1 mile to overtake a slightly slower moving HGV causing delays, congestion and frustration in many more drivers. They really do act in an inconsiderate manner - thinking only of themselves, and no-one else.

    If they could dispel this attitude of... 'I do this for a living, don't tell me how to do my job', I am sure things could be far better than they are.

    Personally, I am someone who will stand by my principles and thus a year or so ago I decided that I'd had my fair share and more than enough of incessant traffic jams, inept and unnecessary roadworks, intolerant HGV drivers and the like... and decided to sell my car. I do all my business (and much of my personal) travel now by rail. It may cost me more, but I always arrive more relaxed, totally un-pressured, and ready for whatever I have traveled for.
  11. JessopSmythe

    JessopSmythe Active Member

    But then the same would surely have to apply for anyone that drives slower than the traffic behind wants to travel. I've no problem with vehicles that travel slowly because they have no choice, it's the middle aged idiots (male and female) who sit in lane 2 or 3 at 60 mph that should be shot. Or the ones who do about 20 mph around the corners on country roads but speed up on the straights so they're going just a bit too fast to overtake safely:mad:
  12. leisa

    leisa Active Member

    I hate hate hate middle lane drivers...also people who overtake you at fast speed then slow down so you end up overtaking them (this happened to me on wayback from a band contest once and just amused me greatly - whats the point people???) I also hate lorries with a vengance especially as they never seem to look wen changing lanes.
  13. RobBari

    RobBari Member

    leisa, lots of hate in your last post? but i agree with all youv'e said.Just try and chill when these things happen and youwill not end upwith points on your licence or worse end up in A+E. If someone really p****s you off smile at them and shrug it really gets to them. all this advice from someone with 33 years of driving experience several speeding tickets and a very short fuse.
  14. Veri

    Veri Member

    More relaxed?! Which train network do you use?!! In fact, the opposite is true for me - I commute twice weekly to Bristol from Oxford, coming back fairly late in the evening. After the first semester I was so fed up of cancelled trains/late trains/sitting on mysteriously stopped trains/new winter timetables which I didn't know about that I bought a car. Now i arrive relaxed and undishevelled, and plus I have the bonus of not relying on lifts to bands etc which has enabled me to dep for more bands and do more fun things. However, I do feel guilty about owning a car when I live in Oxford, and when work is cyclable...
  15. SuperMosh

    SuperMosh New Member

    The northbound stretch of the M42 towards the merge with A42 did have a trial in place doing just that. This is a two lane motorway and whenever I drove it, it did seem to move a little better.

    Don't know if this is still being enforced or not though.
  16. Andy Cooper

    Andy Cooper Member

    sorry should have re qualified that to include the Honda drivers and caravan towers JS!!!!

    (Retreats safely behind a wall now hand grenade thrown)
  17. SuperMosh

    SuperMosh New Member

    My big pet hate is when you are waiting to turn from a junction and somebody pulls across the front of you, thus saving themselves 12 foot of space in the queue and also blocking the junction for everybody else. Seen this done with a fire engine (complete with sirens and lights flashing) waiting to turn into the road.

  18. Daisy Duck

    Daisy Duck Member

    Middle lane hoggers! Agh! Luckily for us in Sussex, there are very few stretches on road with 3 lanes...

    My pet hate is "45 drivers". These are people who drive everywhere at 45 miles an hour. So, they're on a nice open stretch of country road where they could easily, and safely, be doing 60mph but they still go at 45mph and it can be very difficult to overtake. But then, they come to a village where the speed limit is 30mph but they don't slow down, they just keep going at 45! Grr...
  19. andyp

    andyp Active Member

    All of the above should be covered under "driving without due care and attention" or "careless driving". Unfortunately a little yellow box on a stick can't enforce either.

    Somone doing 60mph in the middle lane of a motorway should be done for driving without due care - as they are obviously not taking any notice of what's (not!) around them they must not be paying attention, which is far more dangerous than speeding.
  20. Cornet Nev.

    Cornet Nev. Member

    What can sometimes be even more frustrating, is having overtaken perhaps a long line of slower moving vehicles in the near lane, I then move into the near lane myself. Half a mile further on I find myself stuck behind something else moving slowly, but can't get out to overtake, for all the traffic coming up from behind and overtaking me. I think the middle lane hoggers perhaps hog the middle lane to avoid that happening.

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