Invisalign-type braces

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by chrisgs, May 31, 2014.

  1. chrisgs

    chrisgs Member

    Just wondering whether anyone has any experience of playing whilst wearing Invisalign (or similar) braces?

    Apparently it's easier than with conventional 'train tracks' - but that's generally coming from orthodontists rather than musicians - it would be good to hear from anyone who has first hand experience. I'm considering getting them but, as a soprano player, I'm particularly concerned about managing to retain (or at least build back up) a decent high register, which with normal braces seems to be the biggest struggle from what I understand.
  2. Bob Sherunkle

    Bob Sherunkle Active Member

    I have played in braces for many years.

    Generally I find them very comfortable but my trousers did once fall down in front of Princess Anne.

    Hope this helps.


    PS I don't know what type they are
  3. trumpetmike

    trumpetmike Well-Known Member

    A past student of mine had these and said that she suffered very few problems with her playing (she had just completed a degree in music, so was at a decent level of performance).
  4. chrisgs

    chrisgs Member

    That's very reassuring, thanks :)
  5. Bob Sherunkle

    Bob Sherunkle Active Member

    My pleasure.

    Just make sure they are buttoned on securely.
  6. Alyn James

    Alyn James Member

    Every time Bob :clap:
  7. 2nd tenor

    2nd tenor Well-Known Member

    Orthodontic treatment can be a problem for brass players but it is a long term gain in return for a short term pain. My nephew had to move off of his Cornet and onto a Bass to continue playing whilst he had traditional metal braces on his teeth, but other and better management will be available these days.

    I suspect your best bet for further information is a 'Google Search'. I tried the term ‘lingual braces trumpet’ and results did come up that could be helpful. Not much came up for cornets but trumpet and cornet mouthpieces are similarly small so reported experiences may well overlap sufficiently for your use.
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2014
  8. trumpetmike

    trumpetmike Well-Known Member

    Not always.
    I have seen some people have braces and much as their teeth might look better in the long term, there have been a number of other orthodontic problems caused by the braces.
    As for the music - they couldn't cope with the braces, gave up and never returned.
    The short term pain is not always worth it.
  9. Alyn James

    Alyn James Member

    In a world of perfect teeth I suspect the most interesting people will have crooked ones. Lots of young brass players are being ruined whilst the orthoquacks laugh all the way to the bank.
  10. 2nd tenor

    2nd tenor Well-Known Member

    This is a real difficult one. It's a very appearance centered culture we live in so what today’s youngsters later look like in the adult professional world does count. Don't know about whether young brass players are lost or damaged by Orthodontists but, in my experience, if you give kids something difficult to manage then expect to lose a significant percentage for some reason or other – perhaps they might return much later.

    Wealthy, laughing all the way to the bank? I would be too but Orthodontists have to do many years of tough exams to become a 'super dentist' so they will not come cheap. I guess they want a return on their investment ..... good career path? Quaks? Tell it the way you see it. I wouldn't have them mess with any ones teeth unless there was a strong case for it but, as ever, all professions have more and less honest people in them.
  11. chrisgs

    chrisgs Member

    Thanks for all the feedback and comments.

    I have already spent a fair while on Google, but there doesn't seem to be much in the way of first hand experiences using Invisalign whilst playing trumpet/cornet (it's very different to lingual braces) - hence why I came here.

    I'm still not 100% decided what to do, but I think I'm leaning towards getting them. One of the things really drawing me to the idea is that it might help my playing in the long run since at the moment my teeth are twisted so that the edges stick into my lips. Stamina has always been one of my biggest struggles and I can't help but wonder if having a flat surface to play against would help (not that I'm making excuses or anything!). It's just such a risk to take though when at the moment I feel I'm playing relatively well and there's no way of actually knowing what effect braces / straight teeth would have until I make the decision and it's too late to change my mind...
  12. 2nd tenor

    2nd tenor Well-Known Member

    My own experience of Orthodontists is limited to the one my son is using at the moment. We were uncertain what to do as parents but thought his teeth were well out of line so talked to our own dentist about her views. She felt that there was advantage to him in having the work done and suggested the specialist that her practice (and many others) use. We took my son for a review, whilst in the waiting room another child returned and the waiting parent was advised not to have work done as the perceived issue was not bad enough. When the orthodontist looked at my son's teeth both he and a second orthodontist in the practice felt that there was a clear case for work to be done and could justify it being funded by the NHS (who have limited funds for the work and reject a lot of requests).

    There are questions to ask youself. What does your own dentist think about how the health of your teeth will be changed by the treatment? And are you able to identify a good and busy orthodontist and get a clear honest opinion from someone who doesn't need your business? Why do you have a preferred type of brace and more importantly will your orthodontist be able to do their best work with it?

    More. Is cornet playing your prime reason for considering this work and if so are there other options which might help you avoid a procedure which is expensive, painful at times and might go wrong in some way? Why do you have to keep playing Sop whilst this work is being done, wouldn’t a short term move to a bigger instrument make more sense and help get the best outcome?
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2014

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