Will JanH now ban me for suggesting that banning a relatively new Member after two posts that he obviously does not like could be considered a little heavy handed. I thought his defence of the Dyke thread was completely misguided, but he was only learning the ropes here. I think you may have inadvertently prooved his point! And before you start on me, check the ip's. I have no idea who he or she was. P.s Bob Childs is a genius. Little Ott Jan.