Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by ploughboy, Apr 23, 2004.

  1. ploughboy

    ploughboy Active Member

    What are you doing to celebrate your englishness?

    I'm gonna wear my red and white's and raise a glass in the pub to st. george.

    by the way.... He was a roman soilder, born in greece, never came to England, stood up for Christianity, was beheaded for it. He's also St. in Russia, Greece and 5/6 other places in Europe. But today is about been english, Yes were a multicutural society these days and that should be celebated too, but when born in England we are all English!!

    (my apologies to Andrew, Patrick and David but you all have your own day)
  2. Ste69

    Ste69 Member

    :eek: Altogether now!!!......."Till we have built Jerusalem...." :eek:
  3. Well Worth It

    Well Worth It Active Member

    Land of Hope and Glory.....
  4. Big Twigge

    Big Twigge Active Member

    As a welsh type with English parents, I hope everyone has a .....
    Happy St Georges Day.....enjoy it :wink:
  5. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Active Member

    Happy St George's Day everyone.

    I will not be wearing my red and whites. Might be mistaken for a mackem :eek:
  6. drummergurl

    drummergurl Active Member

    wots this?? nothing on tmp logo at the top for st georges day??? we had a clover for st paddys day and a daffydil for BST wot bout st george?
  7. strongbow

    strongbow Member

    Celebrating my hubby's birthday who was born in Wales! :guiness
  8. drummergurl

    drummergurl Active Member

    as u may not know by now but im not that clever at big words!! can anyone explain it to me??
  9. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Active Member

    Think the Daffodil was for St Davids Day??

    Is it just me, or does anyone else get the impression that celebrating St George's Day is seen by some to be an example of British Xenophpobic Racism?? Is this why its dumbed down in recent years? I just have the feeling that some think that if you choose celebrate St Georges Day you immediatley become a Right Wing, National Front, BNP Hooligan??!

    Utter rubbish of course.

    Just the impression I got from this mornings papers........
  10. strongbow

    strongbow Member

    Something to do with that other life consuming activity, football. I presume Geordiecolin is a Newcastle supporter and for some unknown reason :lol:, doesn't like Sunderland?
  11. drummergurl

    drummergurl Active Member

    ok there was a daffyfil for summat, and football isnt a strong point of mine so ill just say ok and leave it
  12. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Active Member

    HaHa! It's ok, I would have thought that must of tmp wouldn't have understood it:

    Mackem: Person born within site of the Wear. Definitions vary as follows, with the first definition being considered the most important:

    a) Anyone born within the boundaries of the original town of Sunderland, not including Washington and Houghton - le - Spring added later as parts of the City of Sunderland.

    b) Anyone born within the boundaries of the Borough or the City of Sunderland (Sunderland became a city in 1992), including Washington and Houghton-le-Spring.

    c) Anyone born within the boundaries of the city, plus Seaham, Murton, Easington and other places defined as being in the old East Durham Coalfields.

    d) Anyone born within site of the Wear, from the source up at Wearhead to the mouth of the river at Monkwearmouth. This therefore includes places such as Durham, Bishop Auckland, Wolsingham and Stanhope. Definitions of 'Mackem' mostly don't include these latter areas.

    The term is derived from Mack'em and Tack'em, dating from the early ship building industry (i.e. the people on Wearside 'mak[e] them' and other people 'tak[e] them') and started off as an insult to the people of Sunderland by the Geordies. In recent years, however, the people of Sunderland have taken the name to be part of their identity as Wearsiders.

    Teessiders or 'Smogs' sometimes refer to Mackems as 'Plastic Geordies', meaning that they sound like Geordies, but they're not quite the real thing.

    Taken from here

    And Sunderland AFC wear Red & White Stripes.....
  13. yorkie19

    yorkie19 Active Member

    Absolutely nothing.

  14. yorkie19

    yorkie19 Active Member


    I think it's more the inverse. The far right in England have identified themselves very strongly with St George (a little ironic given that he was a Greek!) This is a little unusual since normally they pick a strong Nationalist figure from their history (eg Hitler in Germany or Mussolini in Italy). Their literature is makes use of the Flag of St George, and so when 23rd April rolls around and the nation bedecks itself in red and white, the wrong assumption is made. Unfortuantely, it seems to me, a lot of people are then tarred with the same brush.

  15. 2nd man down

    2nd man down Moderator Staff Member

    Clover?? CLOVER?? It's a Shamrock!!! :roll:
  16. Dave Payn

    Dave Payn Active Member

    But when you think there is apparently no harm in the Irish (and English!) celebrating St Patrick's Day, the Welsh St David's Day, The Scots St Andrews Day, The Americans Independence Day, the New Zealanders Watange ('scuse spelling) Day, Australians Australia Day, and I'm sure there must be other countries who celebrate their 'day' (French Bastille Day for instance?), to try and deny or criticise the English the right to celebrate - effectively - 'England' day whatever the history (and I'm sure there are dodgy histories with other countries' national celebrations) is fickle, and frankly, pathetic for what should be a harmless national day celebration or whatever you want to call it. Too many ill-meaning PC brigadiers around for my liking..... After all a celebration of modern England is a celebration of a nation of many diverse cultures and races, surely?
  17. 2nd man down

    2nd man down Moderator Staff Member

    And I shall probably have a beer or six for you guys even tho I'm a sweaty sock (Jock!!).

    Happy St. Georges...I think it was our flugal he slayed!!
  18. Well Worth It

    Well Worth It Active Member

    But "Everyone loves Clover!!"
  19. drummergurl

    drummergurl Active Member

    same difference clover, shamrock its the same plant
  20. yorkie19

    yorkie19 Active Member


    As an impartial bystander in all this, (far too much mixed blood in my veins to be from anywhere!), it's always amused me that St George's day is almost an anti-climax after who much vigour goes into celebrating St Patrick's Day. Maybe the English should invent an alcoholic drink that you can consume lots of to celebrate the Saints day?? :lol: