Grand Shield - Results

Discussion in 'The Adjudicators' Comments' started by Roger Thorne, May 3, 2003.

  1. Roger Thorne

    Roger Thorne Active Member

    Grand Shield:

    Adjudicators: Bram Gay and James Williams MBE
    Test piece: Tallis Variations, Sparke
    Commenced: 11.00am

    1. Carlton Main Frickley Colliery, W. Rushworth, 12
    2. CWS Glasgow, N. Childs, 19
    3. JAG Mount Charles, B. Hurdley, 4
    4. Fishburn, G. O'Connor, 16
    5. Yorkshire Co-operatives, J. Roberts, 17
    6. Beaumaris, G. Evans, 10
    7. Flowers, P. Harper, 8
    8. Glossop Old, J. Cant, 13
    9. East Yorkshire Motor Services, G. Pritchard, 15
    10. Sellers International, P. McCann, 18
    11. Kibworth, J. Berryman, 1
    12. ASDA Stocksbridge, D. Renshaw, 9
    13. Skelmanthorpe, K. Wadsworth, 5
    14. Burry Port Town, D. Evans, 11
    15. B.T.M. Fowles, 21
    16. Aveley and Newham, N. Taken, 6
    17. Desford Colliery, P. Parkes, 2
    18. Bodmin, R. Gray, 3
    19. Freckleton, P. Dalton, 20
    20. Thoresby Colliery, J. Hudson, 14
    21. Ransome, B. Grant, 7

    Best soloist: Flugel - Flowers

    Senior Cup:

    Adjudicators: Steven Sykes and Derek Broadbent
    Test piece: Pagannini Variations, Wilby
    Commenced: 10.30am

    1. Rothwell Temperance, D. Roberts, 17
    2. Jaguar (Coventry), D. Lea, 9
    3. Hepworth, M. Bentham, 5
    4. Redbridge, M. White, 14
    5. Newstead Welfare, D. Beckley, 3
    6. Lindley, N. Jowett, 6
    7. BTM, D. Stowell, 2
    8. Wingates, R. Curran, 12
    9. Newtongrange, A. Swainson, 8
    10. Ashton Under Lyne, J. Maines, 18
    11. Wooley Pritchard Sovereign Brass, W. Ruston, 10
    12. United Co-op Crewe, J. Sparkes, 15
    13. Kingdom Brass, A. Hutchinson, 1
    14. Staffordshire, D. Maplestone, 11
    15. Laganvale, E. Ruddock, 13
    16. Camborne, P. Murrell, 16
    17. Aldbourne, I. Holmes, 4
    18. Ratby Co-operative, K. J. Steward, 19
    19. Pemberton Old Wigan, G. Cutt, 7

    Stalybridge, D. Hirst, W

    Soloist: Solo Euph - Jaguar (Coventry)

    Senior Trophy:

    Adjudicators: David Read and Alan Lawton
    Test piece: Tournament for Brass, Eric Ball
    Commenced: 11.30am

    1. Pennine Brass, I. Porthouse, 12
    2. Bournemouth Concert, D. Hayward, 20
    3. Dalmellington, R. Evans, 5
    4. Haydock, I. Brownbill, 11
    5. Bo'ness and Carriden, I. Davey, 3
    6. Drighlington, M. Sidwell, 18
    7. City of Coventry, P. Bailey, 10
    8. Riddings, J. Davis, 8
    9. City of Oxford, J. Glynn, 16
    10. Unison Kinneil, A. Ramsey, 14
    11. Longridge, B. Baker, 17
    12. Soham Comrades, P. Filby, 19
    13. Johnstone Band, R. Tennant, 4
    14. Wakefield Metropolitan, B. Dyson, 6
    15. Thornbury, Lynda Black, 13
    16. Thomas Coaches Mid Rhondda, A. Gibbs, 9
    17. Northop, K. Bolton, 2
    18. Mossley, M. Evans, 1
    19. Nottingham City Transport, S. Phillips, 7
    20. Kippax, I. Colley, 15

    Solo prize: Bournemouth Concert - Solo cornet

    (courtesy of 4BarsRest)
  2. Roger Thorne

    Roger Thorne Active Member


  3. Heather

    Heather Member

    Heard CWS Glasgow (Scottish Coop) and I thought they were brilliant!
    So you nearly got them all!!
  4. Aidan

    Aidan Active Member

    i heard ransome.. and everyone (cept adjudicators) thought they were brilliant too ;) goes to show eh.. :D us mere mortals outside the box dont have a clue!
  5. spookybiking

    spookybiking Member


    nice to see a welsh band the up with them Beaumaris. they were a first section band nationally in 2001 i think.
  6. Sellers_Bird

    Sellers_Bird Active Member

    Comments on the results pleeeease ! :roll:
  7. Sueee

    Sueee Member

    I dont think I'd best make a comment(!) :roll:
  8. jonford

    jonford Member

    I only heard three bands so ive not a lot to compare with but I thought Sellers were very good and should of been a bit higher than 10th! Although I dont kno the piece that well so i cant really judge.
  9. Hilary Mateer

    Hilary Mateer Member

    I heard 15 of the Grand Shield Bands, The ones I missed were Beaumaris,, Burry Port Town,. Glossop Old, , Thoresby Colliery, East Yorkshire Motor Services and Fishburn, so I can't comment on those.
    I found it a very difficult piece to judge as the bands all seemed to play it very well.
    However the ones that for me found something extra in the piece (and stopped me from dozing off in the middle) were Flowers, Carlton Main, CWS and Ramsomes.
    I also enjoyed the performances of Stocksbridge, BT and Sellers.

    It's a good job I wasn't the adjudicator :!:
  10. satchmo shaz

    satchmo shaz Active Member

    I heard frickley and they were awesome, (my brother Carl was helping them out on 2nd euph)
    A well deserved win I'd say!
  11. davidsait

    davidsait Member

    Can anyone explain what David Read was on about when, during his speech before the Senior Trophy results, he said that the piece (Tournament) 'was a good test in 1954 (or whatever) when it was written, and is still a good test in 1903'?

    I know he's been doing some historical research, but I just don't get the joke.


    Dave Sait
  12. aqua76

    aqua76 Member

    I dont think he actually realised what he had said and why everyone was laughing.
    Kinda worrying surely?

    Jane Baillie
    Dalmellington Band
    (still recovering from t' weekend!) :roll:
  13. davidsait

    davidsait Member

    You mean it was a real slip of the tounge? Blimey.
  14. aqua76

    aqua76 Member

    I was in the hall for the results, and he definitely didnt realise what he had said - when everyone started laughing, he tried to say he meant it but i dont think so.....

    Dalmellington Band
  15. CRat63

    CRat63 Member

    Just goes to show what a wierd contest the Grand Shield is and how results can end up being a bit different! :shock: Everyone was plucking for Sellers and the usual suspects, including me, and although I didn't hear many bands, I think it was fairly easy to judge. Those who have played the piece will know it demands a lot more than those who can play so loud and dramatically at the end-especially in that hall where loud sound (particularly percussion) will just cloud out the detail. How many bands did that, and got a lower result than we all expected? Tuning seemed to be running wild in that hall, with the lower band being shown up on a regular basis because of mutes. The piece is so cliched, :roll: and has all the basic things in it to show up any band-didn't those things they catch a lot out? And finally, how many took sections so fast it lost detail ( that hall!?). Oh well, another year gone. We came fifth, and although we put up a bit of an average performance on stage, expecting to come in the bottom six (if that!), we got a good result down to balance, tone and all the basic rubbish in terms of tempos etc...
    Unlucky to those who didn't get a result higher than they would have liked, well done to those who got a good one, particularly Frickley and Billy. Hope you all had a good day in the end-I know I did, :guiness with our result especially!

    Craig Ratcliffe,
    2nd Euphonium, Yorkshire Co-operatives Brass Band
  16. Bones

    Bones Member

    I echo the comments of CRat. The piece, whilst not the most technically demanding, calls for an enormous amount of style and thought to be placed in the interpretation and we in particular spent a lot of time of the the shape of the piece. The comments we received from the adjusicators pointed everything towards the style in which we played the piece and a lot of credit for that goes to Billy in the way we got the piece together.

    Other than that, we went to the competition as the last placed band in 2002 British Open, and we have gone straight back up as the winning Grand Shield 2003 band. What a fabulous achievement that is. And the same for CWS glasgow as well.

    We had a great weekend, and it has lifted the whole band up. We have some great comments from other people and thanks to all of them. Thanks should also go to 2 borrowed players, Carl Ramplin of Long Eaton Silver Prize and Clive Jowett who stepped in and really got us out of the doggy doo.

    Here's to the Open, we are so pleased to be back in one of the Movement's biggest competetions again.

    Cheers all.

  17. Baldeagle

    Baldeagle Member

    Well done Richard now go for the OPEN ! :guiness
  18. dyl

    dyl Active Member

    Congrats Bones!
  19. Heather

    Heather Member

    Well Done Bones!!!
    I didn't hear you but I heard CWS Glasgow and thought they were fantastic, so you must have been awesome!!
    What a great piece. I love it.
  20. euphemism

    euphemism Member

    Had the privelidge of playing with CMF - and had a great time - and a great result too.... beautiful music we made - and adjudicators comments to die for !!!

    Wonderful time... thanks to all at CMF .... catch you soon

    Hows the head Rich ??

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