Get it Right from the "Get-go"

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Alyn James, Oct 25, 2013.

  1. Alyn James

    Alyn James Member

    My grandson Charlie is 14 months old so it's time to start thinking about his playing career. What's the best way to approach first noises so he's given the best-formed embouchure possible from the very beginning? Buzz?Mouthpiece? ? ?
  2. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    wait until he's old enough to have a full set of teeth and choose what he wants to play?
  3. Alyn, theres 2 horn players and sop player in your family i think its about time a James was introuduced to the dark side of BBb ;) might have to wait another 13 years for him to be able to hold it though!
  4. Alyn James

    Alyn James Member

    BBb? - aren't they those things you plant flowers in?

    Apart from the Charlie bit, my question does have a serious side. Creating a vibration is just physics. So, what's the most consistently successful way to start off a beginner?
  5. ploughboy

    ploughboy Active Member

    Sticks are the way forward!
  6. GJG

    GJG Well-Known Member

    14 months? This is a wind-up, right ... :confused:
  7. toby hobson

    toby hobson Member

    Don’t bother putting them on a brass instrument until about year 4 or 2nd set of front teeth are through. Just get them enjoying music, singing, tapping rhythms etc. When it’s time, Get them blowing a constant stream of air through a thin carton straw, get them tonguing the end of the straw and interrupting the air flow. The embouchure will form naturally around the straw. Then, put the straw up the mouthpiece, and get them to blow air through the straw just the same but with the mouthpiece sitting on the lips, get them to take a big breath, blow it "loud" then pull the straw out, the buzz will probably happen naturally after the first go or the next few goes.
    Once that is good, get them to blow air through the cornet and they will naturally do it. Get them tonguing ASAP. Look out for "pu pu pu pu" with the chin moving. If they don’t get it, get them to blow a note and shove the tongue in the hole to stop it and keep the air pressure up behind the tongue then pull away. Aim to have them tonguing well within the first few weeks, it saves an AWFUL amount of re-teaching once they get lessons from stressed teachers with serious time constraints!!!

    Remember it’s supposed to be a bit of fun!!
  8. Matthew

    Matthew Active Member

    No pressure then! ;)
  9. GordonH

    GordonH Active Member

    IIRC John Wallace started on his baby teeth and it didn't do him any harm.

    However, there are a lot of bad habits allowed from day 1 by some teachers that take years of unlearning later on.
    The prevailing view seems to be letting people enjoy playing, no matter how they are doing it.
  10. Alyn James

    Alyn James Member

    Surely the greatest potential for enjoyment lies with having an efficiently set up embouchure. When blowing comes easily a kid'll have great fun. So - what's the best way to get it right from the get go? Only toby hobson's come anywhere near offering some usable ideas thus far.