Genuine Brass Band Legends

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by The King of Wise, Aug 27, 2004.

  1. Bass Trumpet

    Bass Trumpet Active Member

    I know that this thread is entitled Genuine Brass Band Legends, but I thought this an appropriate place to mention the recent passing of Roger Brenner at the age of 71. Roger was a true legend of the trombone playing world, having freelanced and served some years as principal trombone of English National Opera. He was one of the early pioneers in the resurgence of the alto trombone and was a specialist on the instrument, so much so that Benjamin Britten consulted him when writing 'The Burning Fiery Furnace'. Roger was a member not only of the Philip Jones Brass Ensemble, but also a founder member of the City of London Sinfonia (CLS). Roger was a larger-than-life character and was one of the funniest people I ever had the privilege to know.

    His funeral yesterday was a joyous occasion. A brass ensemble from the CLS was playing, as well as a pro-celebrity bigband led by Mark Nightingale and Chris Dean, who sang a beautiful rendition of 'Fly Me to the Moon'. There must have been 250 people crammed into the church, with some standing at the back. It could have been described as a real who's who of the trombone scene over the past 50+ years. All followed by a few light ales in Roger's honour!

    Roger's passing, after a short illness, can be considered by many as the end of an era. Go back 40-odd years, there was really only a handful of players of a very high calibre and Roger was up there with best of them. Many are no longer with us, many are retired to a quiet life, but Roger was still working up until a few weeks ago.

    Apologies for hijacking a brass band thread with details of a primarily orchestral player, but I feel that, if anyone were to be described as a legend, Roger fits that category perfectly!:clap:
  2. simonbassbone

    simonbassbone Member

    So which band do they play in?

    What about Adrian Hirst?
    I don't know how you qualify to be a legend but how long has he been at Dyke and how many titles has he won? On bass trombone you're never going to be the bands superstar soloist but its very easy to spoil a good band and when has Adrian ever done that. Top quality player in my opinion.
  3. Bass Trumpet

    Bass Trumpet Active Member

    You could argue until you're blue in the face about who should and shouldn't be on a list like this (and I certainly don't agree with that trombone section) but to answer your question, they both have a background in bands even though they are now professional orchestral players. If my memory serves me correctly, Ian played for Yorkshire Imperial Metals and Doug comes from a Salvation Army background. Both gentlemen have retained their links with the banding world.
  4. Hells Bones

    Hells Bones Active Member

    No-body seems to have put in the genius that is Joe Alessi!!!
    Listen to him, fantabulous!
  5. Bayerd

    Bayerd Active Member

    Granted he's a fantastic player, but the thread is about brass band legends. Didn't know he's from a banding background.
  6. Brian Kelly

    Brian Kelly Active Member

    Bolton, Lancs, England
    Joe Alessi, IMO the best orchestral tenor trombone player around (sorry Bass Trumpet, no offence!) does not have a background in brass bands, although he has played solos with brass bands, both in concerts and on recordings.

    Ian Bousfield did play for 1st trombone for Yorkshire Imperial (aged 14!) and was also a member of the National Youth Brass Band of GB.

    Douglas Yeo has never been a member of the Salvation Army and does not have a background in brass bands. However, like Joe Alessi, he has played solos with brass bands both in concerts and on recordings, and is Musical Director of the New England Brass Band and is involved in the North American Brass Band Association.
  7. 1/4 tone sharp

    1/4 tone sharp New Member

    Euphonium - Barrie Perrins. National Euphonium Champion of Great Britain on several occasions around the early 70's but sadly no longer with us. Would have walked into any leading band in the country but I believe chose to stay with Hendon Band due to his religious beliefs.
  8. JohnG

    JohnG New Member

    No baritone on the original list ?!
    How about Katrina Marzella from Livingston, West Lothian, Whitburn Band, BBC Radio 2 Young Brass Soloist winner 2004. Ouch, five years ago.
    What became of her?
  9. Aidan

    Aidan Active Member

    Bergen, Norway
  10. bassendworld

    bassendworld Member

    south of watford gap
    Thats correct, a fantastic player and extremely nice eperson to boot............I remember my childhood hours listening to him as my father also played in the Hendon Band at the same time.
  11. rosolino

    rosolino Member

    Continuing the what became of ...... theme, what became of the King of Wise? Haven't heard much of him/her for about five years either! Maybe they are one in the same :cool:
  12. The King of Wise

    The King of Wise New Member

    Rumours of my demise would appear to be premature, but as this thread is about genuine brass band legends we would be better sticking to the subject without getting bogged down with the state of my health.

    Did Rosolino ever play with a decent brass band? That would have been worth listening to!

    Re Miss Marzella: she hasn't done too badly in the five years since she won the BBC competition. If there's a better baritone player out there, I've never heard it.

  13. Kjata

    Kjata Member

    Easy peasy!!!

    Cornet - Richard Marshall
    Sop - Peter Roberts (or Gary Fountain)
    Horn - Sandy Smith or Owen Farr
    Flugel - John Doyle (or Danny from Ipswich and Norwich!) ;)
    Euphonium - David Childs or Glynn Williams
    Baritone - Katrina Marzella
    Trombone - Brett Baker, Gary Mcphee
    Basses - Joe Cook, Steve Sykes.
  14. Vegasbound

    Vegasbound Active Member

    Any nod to brass band greats must IMHO include the much missed Don Lusher, started in the SA and never totally lost the connection with banding, although under the rules at the time had to give up SA banding because he played 'dance' music.

    other names to conjure with Trevor Groom,John Clough, Jim Shepherd etc.....

    and a nod to Derek Cane 30+ years with the ISB
  15. Fred Muscroft

    A proper legend.
  16. ghost

    ghost Member

    South West
    Sop - Brian Evans, (That silky sound - that passion and feeling - that is before it became unfashionable to play in this way!)
    Cornets Philip McCann for the best sound of all time and Roger Webster for hair raising technique, Jim Sheppard for triple tonguing which was like shelling peas and Derek Garside for the best Cleopatra one could imagine
    Flugel - Stan lippeat - Great in all aspects and over a whole career
    Horn - Sandy Smith for sound and feeling
    Baritone - Hmmm!
    Euph - well can I include all the Child's brothers and Lyndon whose sound was stunning - but that man Mickie Dodds keeps impressing me and I just have to put him in as a potential class winner
    Trombone - I'm not decided on this one
    Bass Steve Sykes has really thrown away the text book and rewritten it
    Conductor - Allan Withington and Major Kenny (such an inspiration to so many)
    Best Venue - RAH just because of the romanticism and history
    Best Band room - That one up Queensbury way - they make you so welcome and they play a good tune there too!
    Best Test piece - Can't say, cos I change my mind every day depending on the weather, how I feel, etc etc etc I could name twenty here but that is a completely different debate!
  17. GJG

    GJG Well-Known Member

    A pub, Surrey, UK
    Don't think it's fair to let this thread pass without putting in a vote for Ron Harrison on Soprano cornet. Retired from the ISB some time before the current situation where there is much more integration (not sure if that's the right word but it will have to do) between SA and secular brass bands, so it's understandable that there will be many here who will not have been familiar with his playing, but he certainly qualifies as a "legend" in my book. He was pushing the boundaries of technique and range (and power!) before Peter Roberts et al (putting top 'D's on record in "The Prodigal" (1980) for example), and whilst his sound might be considered a little old-fashioned these days, there are some "live" recordings around from the '70s & '80s which are just stunning.
  18. ian perks

    ian perks Active Member

    West Midlands
    John Slinger was Solo Baritone at Dyke for many years then moved to 2nd Baritone.
  19. Jethro

    Jethro Member

    One of the sweetest sounding cornet players would have had to be Alan Exley when he was with the Imps
    Euphonium has to be Lyndon Baglin (Never heard Jenny Jones played like it since)

    Bass Trom Toby Bannan has to be up there

  20. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    Hadleigh, Essex
    . . . and not only on record: I was privileged to be present at a stunning live performance in Cardiff in about 1978/9 when I heard "The Prodigal" for the first time, sitting about three rows from the front ;)
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