Well spank my **** and call me betty but tonight I had a surreal experience. Went to the sage at Gateshead (nice place by the way!) to see the St Petersburg Philharmonic orchestra and to my surprise the French horm Section were fantastic as well as the rest of the orchestra I might add. I know I have given them a bit stick in the past but these guys were top notch. Maybe Dave Payn had a point after all. Still wouldn't have them in a brass band though. Still only heard 3 good ones and a 100 crap but I am mellowing!!