Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by Bungle, Mar 2, 2006.
I think its about time to start a seperate 'Football world cup' thread.
Absolutely! not eveything to do with football should be in a Liverpool thread!
(If it's a world cup thread, it will of course be a claret and blue flavoured thread in honour of 1966 and all that)
Excellent idea, chaps. Here you go!
What do we all think then?
Any chance of glory this summer? or is it all hype
Football? Is that the one with the round ball that you can't pick up?
Girls game. Never played it.
Jules (ex lose head prop) (good excuse for playing with hookers )
I'm still bitter about the whole draw thing. US has had Mexico's number and finished top of the CONCACAF qualifier and finished ahead of them at the last world cup and they get a number 1 seed and a relatively easy draw compared to us
Yup. Come on the Boys from Brazil!
So have we picked our tMP England starting line-up yet? I've been tipping Carrick to be a world cup starter for about 3 years. I saw him play for west ham at that time. Everyone was talking about Joe Cole then, and to me, although I liked what I saw in Cole, Carrick looked even classier. Gerrard is a great player, but he dosn't play the holding role as well as Carrick and so it's a straight choice between Gerrard and Lampard for the attacking midfield role. I'll choose Lampard.
Ferdinand continues to be a racehorse who can play like a donkey so it's a Terry/ King partnership for me. Full backs are our weakness but you have to pick specialists in the positions (not.. oh dear, Ferdinand/gerrard/SWP are good players, we'll see if they can play left-back).
I presume that the Rooney/Owen partnership won't cause too many arguments.
So that leaves me with
Robinson; Neville(Gary); King; Terry: Bridge (if Ashley Cole is unfit); Beckham; Carrick; Lampard; Joe Cole; Rooney: Owen
How does that look to you? I think they could do very nicely.
Agreed. Especially as a Chelsea supporter I have been disappointed with Cole's production the past 12 months or so.
I would choose Lampard over Gerrard, but I would rather have them both on the pitch.
I'll admit I don't like Rooney, but mostly because of his off field antics. I just can't abide him represent a kingdom as great as England.
This might confuse poor Beckham a bit (as he probably thinks a 4-4-2 with a goalie only adds up to 10 and there should be a space for him) but I'd go with
Whomever in goal...doesn't really matter, they're all naff;
Neville, Carragher, Terry, Bridge;
Gerrard, Carrick, Lampard, Cole;
Defoe and Owen
Whilst England aren't a one man team, I think their chances of having a decent tournament will depend on Rooney's fitness.
In the Uruguay friendly, people were saying England played 'better' after Beckham came off. I think England played more 'to their strengths'. In the first half, England seemed to be trying to play a more 'continental' passing game and it wasn't paying off. It was a more direct style which suits England better that got the win. Let's face it, having seen the video of the 1966 World Cup Final and tournament, you'd hardly say that they were a classy passing side even then. Germany aren't exactly exponents of 'the beautiful game' compared to Brazil but they've had more successes in tournaments simply by playing to their strenghts. If England revert to 'type' and stop listening to the football journos who've never played the game at any decent level who bemoan what brilliant football Brazil play compared to England we might get something out of this. If they get caught in two minds between being a free flowing passing team and the usual more direct English style, they'll be coming home early.
In any case, I can't see any other team than Brazil winning it at the moment. Or Trinidad and Tobago.
And that was part of the problem - I though Gerrard in particular was misplacing too many passes and for me, wasn't missed when he left the pitch.
Can't agree with that - Joe was imho clearly the MOTM. Having watched a lot of both of them at West Ham, Cole is much more consistent. One good game doesn't make Carrick class!
I'm with you on that one!
Finally, in case anyone thinks I see too much ex Claret & Blue in this team, I thought Ferdinand was very average in the game and could have cost us a couple of goals.
(It won't be long before his brother ousts him from the team!)
I disagree. Ferdinand wasn't average. He was poor! (No this ISN'T an anti Man U rant! He was excellent at the last World Cup but his form has dipped). Campbell's not really going to be in the equation by the looks of it, so I guess the first choice central defenders should be Terry and King for me.
With you on that one!
On a slightly different aspect of this tournament, I'm planning on going out to Köln for the Sweden game, don't have match tickets but plan to enjoy the atmosphere with some Swedish ex colleagues of mine.
Anyone up for a tMp band in Köln on the day of the England Sweden match?
Going slightly OT myself.... the next England manager.....
Well, the manager when England won the World Cup was Alf Ramsey who previously guided Ipswich to the championship. In terms of World Cup placings, our next most successful manager was Bobby Robson (also ex Ipswich.....)
OK, so who's the current Ipswich manager.... Joe Royle.
Ah...now there, my masterplan falls down. Oh well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.....
Sir Trevor & Stuart Pearce get my money.
Who's Sir Trevor Pearce?
Anyway, back on topic. How do tMP-ers rate the host nation's chances, particularly in light of the 4-1 drubbing Italy handed out to them in midweek?
I wouldn't pick ANY Neville for a kickabout in the park! Beckam would be dropped from my squad, as would Ferdinand. Not on current form. Crouch would get a seat on the bench, but only get on if they really needed him. Sean Wright Phillips would be in my starting line up.
Still all said and done, it is only football and not a game that really matters (like Rugby, or Womens Beach Volleyball. )
You might better know him as Lord Brooking of Green Street
Crumbs a football forum and i'm agreeing with everything said.....whatever next
Andy - comments like this about the great SG will get you shot, good job wev'e moved from the Liverpool FC thread.
SG has been misplacing passes for years for England, people are easily fooled when 1 or 2 good ones appear, which in all fairness do happen.
as for Rio, very talented but will end up going the same way as David James.
My Xi would be
Cole or Bridge or......anyone but Phil Neville (not sure if Konchesky is really up to it)
Take 5 strikers as Alan Mullery and trevor francis said yesterday goals win you games, you don't need 2 left backs and jamie Carragher for example
Agreed - Konchesky is too inconsistent for me at the moment. If we need anyone from WHU, it ought to be Etherington who has really shown his talent since leaving Spurs.
I also liked Pardew's idea of having Teddy Sheringham around the team somehwere - never had pace to lose so age doesn't matter so much (coming off the bench when we're in the ****!)
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