Fantasy Brass Band

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Soon to be principal, Apr 22, 2004.

  1. I am starting a survey to find out the TMP posters' 'Fantasy Brass Band'. It will consist of: 1 Soprano, 5 solo cornets, 1 repiano cornet, 1 1st cornet, 1 2nd cornet, 1 3rd cornet, 1 flugel, 3 horns, 2 euphoniums, solo baritone, 1st & 2nd baritone, 3 trombones, 5 basses and 3 percussionists. Please send your bands to me at fraser@carnyx.com. I will compile the final band consisting of the players with the highest votes. Please note that you must only include current players and can also choose an MD. The deadline for final submissions will be Moday 31st May. I look forward to receiving your submissions.

    Soon to be Principal
     
  2. drummerboy

    drummerboy Member

    5 basses and 3 baritones? Is this correct? :?
     
  3. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    Why the change from standard instrumentation?
    Just curious.....
     
  4. markyboy

    markyboy Member

    Can I ask a question as well?
    Do the players that you pick have to sit on their respective seats or can you nominate Principal players to sit on secondary parts?
    eg to pick a horn section many people would go for say, Sandy Smith, Owen Farr and Sheona White but they are all Solo Horn players.
    To nominate a first horn player do they have to be a first horn in their band?
    Once this is clear I look forward to the results.
    I'll stick my neck out and predict a certain Mr Roberts will get the Soprano chair.
     
  5. Moy

    Moy Active Member

    Rep and 1st cornet????
     
  6. wewizrobbed

    wewizrobbed Member

    is SA music not sometimes written like that?
     
  7. Moy

    Moy Active Member

    1st in SA is the rep and they usually have no 3rd
     
  8. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    When you say "current players" does that mean they have to be actually playing with bands at present, or do you just mean players who are still alive and active in music?
     
  9. I think this idea has a few flaws you may have to iron out first.

    The instrumentation isn't what most people are used to, keeping it standard contesting band might be alot easier for people and you'll get a better response. - Nothing at all wrong with the salvos, just a suggestion though, as most of us are contest banders.

    Is the idea (in regards to the positions of players) that for example, Sheona White gets 450 votes, Sandy Smith 440 and Owen Farr 430 so they sit solo horn to 2nd horn in that respective order? (Might have to ask for opinions on what the best way to structure the cornet section is if you are doing it like this)

    Can you preference vote?...it would make the system a hell of alot fairer, especially in regards to positions like flugel, euphonium, bass trombone and soprano.

    Can percussionists come from an orchestral background?

    Cheers...A good idea, but we'll need to get all the particulars out on the table before it gets too confusing for voters/posters/submitters!!
     
  10. Cantonian

    Cantonian Active Member

    No!
    There are two levels of instrumentation, neither mentioning numbers of players.
    Festival and General series are:
    Soprano, Solo, 1st and 2nd Cornet, Flugel, Solo,1st and 2nd Horn, 1st and 2nd baritone, euphonium, 1st, 2nd and Bass Trom, Eb and Bb Bass and Percussion.

    Triumph and Unity series have no solo parts and in Unity series, soprano, Bass trom and Flugel are optional doubling other parts.

    American journals have similar scoring.
     
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  12. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    I think the confusion is that the suggested instrumentation isn't SA either?

    How about the usual (non-SA) score order:
    Sop, 4 solos, 1 rep, 2 2nds, 2 3rds
    Flugel, 3 horns
    2 baritones
    2 tenor troms, 1 bass trom
    2 euphs
    2 EEb basses, 2 BBb
    1 kit, 2 (?) tuned percussionists.
     
  13. Ok, Ok, Ok! My sincere apologies for all the flaws. The band will be set up as follows:

    1 soprano
    4 solo cornets
    1 rep
    2 2nd cornets
    2 3rd cornets
    flugel
    solo horn
    1st horn
    2nd horn
    solo baritone
    2nd baritone
    2 euphoniums
    solo trombone
    2nd trombone
    bass trombone
    2 Eb basses
    2 Bb basses
    3 percussion (1 kit, 1 timp, 1 tuned)

    To answer your queries. Players will be picked by the number of votes they get. ie for horn the 3 players with the most votes will sit solo, 1st and 2nd respectively. Percussion players can be from an orchestral background if you wish. Players can be picked as long as they are still
    alive and active in music. You can nominate principal players to sit on secondary parts if you wish. You can also nominate secondary players to sit on solo parts although I don't know who would want to do that. It is up to the individual voters who they vote for. If you want to put your mate in as top cornet even though he's rubbish, feel free to do so. I would recommend against doing this though as we want it to be serious. You don't have to vote for the players regarded as the best around but vote for your favourites. It is a Fantasy Band and it is who you'd like to see in it.

    Sorry for any inconvenience caused and I hope that everything is now cleared up. If you have any more queries or points please feel free to email me at fraser@carnyx.com

    Many thanks to Razor for helping me out with this.

    Regards

    Soon to be Principal
     
  14. What a task you are taking on there 'soon to be principal'. In an ideal world we would both be very well known and people would be picking us to sit in the horn section eh?! Good luck!
     
  15. Ste69

    Ste69 Member

    I don't nearly know enough players to take part but I hope to learn a lot more from reading the results..... I think this is one of the best topics i've read on here in ages...Nice one :lol:
     
  16. deave

    deave Member

    I nominate Dave Root for top man!
     
  17. Tone deaf and mute

    Tone deaf and mute New Member

    When you say 'Fantasy Brass Band' are we nominating players on their playing ability or looks?
     
  18. Bassment Jinx

    Bassment Jinx Member

    Good point. If we're doing the latter then my band wont sound very good. Infact i doubt most of my players have picked up an instrument. Halle Berry would be principal cornet and then there would be....and...and maybe... :lol:
     
  19. Trigger

    Trigger Member

    Oi!!! I'm in your band!! :evil: Nah- actually you're right!! :lol: I think Matthew Taylor (Pompey FC) would be better than Halle Berry anyway :lol:
     
  20. I couldn't muster the whole band but however...

    MD David King

    Soprano Peter Roberts

    Cornets David Daws (p)
    Roger Webster
    Stuart Lingard
    Alan Morrison
    Ian Williams

    Philip McCann (r)

    2nds, 3rds ?

    Flugel Iwan Williams

    Horns Sheona White
    Owen Farr
    Sandy Smith

    Euphonium Morgan Griffiths
    Michael Howly

    Baritone Bob Blackburn
    Katrina Marzella

    Trombones Christian Lindberg
    Nick Hudson
    Douglas Yeo

    EEb Bass Gavin Saynor
    Joe Cook

    BBb Bass ?
    ?

    Percussion
    Dave Griffiths (timpani)
    Evelyn Glennie (Glock, Xylo etc.)
    Simone Ruebello "
     
  21. DublinBass

    DublinBass Supporting Member

    I know its only June 2nd, but have you sorted out the results yet?
     
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