Ear defenders for Noise Merchants

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by YellowTubs, Sep 3, 2009.

  1. YellowTubs

    YellowTubs New Member

    I'm not sure if this has been covered before, but anyway......

    I'd be interested to hear your theories on this and any suggestions.

    Due to 25 years of shed building, 21 years of brass banding, and around 18 years of Heavy Metal abuse, my hearing is having a few issues - namely my hearing appears to dip off some at around the 4 to 8KHz range, and around 11KHz in my right ear.

    To put it simply, I'm going deaf! (a bit)

    Now I'd like to preserve the hearing I have left, and also carry on banding, music and hitting things, but how to protect the sensitive lug 'oles.....

    Has anyone else any experience of this (either among drummers or brass players)?

    My wife has suggested ear plugs, but I can't help but feel that there has to be an active ear defender as opposed to one that just blocks out all sound. Does such a thing exist?

    Over to you :D
  2. flugelgal

    flugelgal Active Member

    I have seen a thread on this before - I definitely posted there that my band hands out Musician's ear plugs to every player, so we can all make the choice whether to wear them or not.
  3. Andrew Norman

    Andrew Norman Active Member

    Specsavers do a good range.
  4. Rapier

    Rapier Supporting Member

    Yes ear defenders that cut out loud noises but allow normal volumes through exist. We used them for Firearms Training. Peltor, if memory serves.
  5. Independent Silver Band

    Independent Silver Band Active Member

    My euphonium player uses an electronic device to cut out higher and, I assume, louder noises. I don't know what it is, but it looks like large earphones for a stereo system. He claims it doesn't interfere with hearing himself play, and I can tell no difference from my standpoint.
  6. Matt the Shed

    Matt the Shed Member

    Seconded, although not cheap.
  7. Tom the Tenor

    Tom the Tenor New Member

    I will let you all know about this topic after next week. I have had dramtic hearing loss to my left ear in the last ten to eleven weeks. The ENT consultant has now referred me to another kind of audiologist for the extremely loud tinnitus that I am experiencing and hopefully the plan will be for me to be also fitted out for some kind of ear protection as well as I work close to and have been for some years a very noisy dot matrix printer. It has really messed things up for me as I so want to start a brass instrument - some of you may have read about my enquiry as to trombone or tenor horn.

    Hope you are all well.

    Can you believe it - it is not raining in Cork today!
  8. Andrew Norman

    Andrew Norman Active Member

    But compared to the value of good hearing........
  9. tsawyer

    tsawyer Member

  10. flugelgal

    flugelgal Active Member

    Indeed! :clap:
  11. mxb59307

    mxb59307 Member

    As someone who has used off the shelf plugs and is now in the process of getting fitted ones, I would suggest a trip to the docs and then ENT specialist. They can check for underlying problems, identify just how you hearing has suffered and what the likely prognosis is, as well as doing proper moulds and advising on appropriate filters for some proper plugs.

    Most people wouldn't think twice about a trip to the opticians for some glasses or the docs for a broken arm, but we seem quite casual when it comes to hearing (I'm guilty as charged). A few quid and some time investigating it now could prolong useful hearing, something that as musicians and (presumably) music listeners we need and should treasure.
  12. Matt the Shed

    Matt the Shed Member

    totally agree, hence I own a pair! Better than the other plugs I've tried over the years, although still take a little getting used to.
  13. themusicalrentboy

    themusicalrentboy Active Member

    one of the perc players I know has sonic filter plugs (I think that's what they're called) and they work very well according to him and a few others he knows.
  14. I also have problems with my hearing due to 31 years of playing in brass bands. I have had ear tests and they say its due to me playing for all these years. My hearing is still good, but at certain frequences (high ones) it is poor, i.e. I struggle to hear birds tweeting or bees humming.
    I will just carry on playing as I am for now, and if it gets any worse I may have to go onto Bb Bass. :lol:
    Joking aside, it is very annoying, but I love to play. So I would rather go deaf, than stop playing.

  15. basstrom4eva

    basstrom4eva Member

    maybe we should all play with silent brass mutes - my mate who is a fellow bass trombone player (ex-nasa physicist) make a fantastic home made version (for cornet, flugel, trombone and bass trombone so far!) and costs next to nothing - maybe he should go into business... no more deaf band persons.

    While at work I tryed a mates ear defenders that you can hear as though they are not there, but electronically stop any dangerous noise levels they were great! they work instantly the noise is produced - the test I did was a hammer hitting the metal side of a trailer - wow!!
  16. jockinafrock

    jockinafrock Active Member

    Sounds similar to my problem - I have otosclerosis in my left ear and got a hearing aid. Explained to them I needed to be able to hear what the conductor says as well as playing, but all that happens is horrendous distortion sounding like speakers up too loud..! It's a nightmare and worse than the deafness 'cos EVERYTHING is amplified! How do those old fogies that i've seen playing manage with their hearing aids in... :-? I take mine out at band and just ask my mate what the conductor's just said... :D
  17. on_castors

    on_castors Member

    There are HORDES of us with playing-induced hearing problems.... then when you try and mention hearing protection and sensible rehearsal measures to those people most able to do something about it, all you get is a stereotypical Daily Mail reader's attitude to interfering "'Elf & Safety"
    As in this thread: http://www.themouthpiece.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35096

    Ah well, I suppose they will be talking about the same problems in 50 years time, despite knowing better than we did!
  18. Getzonica

    Getzonica Active Member

    I found reading this thread very interesting. I'm not suffering from any hearing problems (yet) but my mum did get me to start wearing ear plugs to one of my bands because the place we used to practise in had terrible accustics and so the band sounded extremely loud! However the problem with these ear plugs is that when I spoke or played whilst wearing them it sounded destorted to me.

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