Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Alan MacRae, May 21, 2007.

  1. Alan MacRae

    Alan MacRae Member

    I always thought the correct name of John Ireland's famous piece was "A Dowland Suite" and pays tribute to the famous English composer, John Dowland. I have seen many references to "A Downland Suite" both here and other sites. In fact googling and searching wiki etc produces both variants, although never both at the same time.

    Is this a misprint on some sites? A reprinting of the work with changed name? 2 separate pieces?

    :confused: From Confused of Wiltshire :confused:
  2. KMJ Recordings

    KMJ Recordings Supporting Member

    Downland, AFAIK.
  3. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    Definitely "Downland", as this quote would indicate:

  4. Alan MacRae

    Alan MacRae Member

    4barsrest lists:

    British Open Championships

    Year: 1939
    Saturday, September 30, 1939
    Venue: Belle Vue, Manchester
    James Brier & Fred Bonelli
    Test piece:
    A Downland Suite, John Ireland

    yet this site lists:

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1939 [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A Dowland Suite

    The John Ireland Trust site calls it:
    [/FONT]Downland Suite, A (1932) brass band

    (which I suppose is as confirmed as it gets)

    except: BBC Radio 3 broadcast: ... minuet and rondo from A Dowland Suite by John Ireland.

    Still confused :confused:
  5. Alan MacRae

    Alan MacRae Member

    except he moved to the DOWNS over 20 years after he composed the piece ??
  6. Bass Trumpet

    Bass Trumpet Active Member

    Says Downland on top of the score, so that's good enough for me!
  7. ronnie_the_lizard

    ronnie_the_lizard Active Member

  8. andywooler

    andywooler Supporting Member

    You don't have to live on the Downs to love the Downs!
    It is Downland . The website with the wrong spelling has other inaccuracies in it as well. (Salute TO Freedom or Salute FOR Freedom)
  9. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member

    Is it just not another 4BR typo? :rolleyes:
  10. Alan MacRae

    Alan MacRae Member

    The funny thing I've found when googling every possible variation I can think of, is that all teh string versions seem to be Dowland (no N) and all the brass versions are Downland (with the N). I wonder whether this was deliberate when Ireland re-arranged the music for strings? Perhaps the homage to John Dowland was thought of to add veracity to the string arrangement, Dowland being famous mostly for his lute music.
  11. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member
  12. Anglo Music Press

    Anglo Music Press Active Member

    It just as funny as when people refer to Land of the Long White Clown as Land of the Long White Cloud!!

    No idea where that started....
  13. tubaloopy

    tubaloopy Member

    Harmonica music?
  14. Alan MacRae

    Alan MacRae Member

    Comb Ridge Variations?

    Music for a Vestibule?
  15. tubaloopy

    tubaloopy Member

    I remember Eric Ball being very surprised that his "Sunset Crhapsody" didn't pass the publisher's moderating team...
  16. Bass Trumpet

    Bass Trumpet Active Member

    Virtually every test piece I've played recently has been re-named either by me or someone else. It's become a contest ritual! Last year's Grand Shield piece was named S***s and Shakes just as an example! I won't write down what some of Philip's pieces have been called;)
  17. ronnie_the_lizard

    ronnie_the_lizard Active Member

    ......or what about your recent 'Britney' tribute piece ..... "Music of B. Spears" ;)
  18. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    . . . or that Scottish commission, "Tullis Variations" ;)
  19. andywooler

    andywooler Supporting Member

    And as for those Northerners who stole your Thames side Overture.
  20. ronnie_the_lizard

    ronnie_the_lizard Active Member

    ....or the poignant commentary on military facial injuries ..... "Ear of the Dragoon"

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