Doodul Tonguing

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by brassneck, Nov 6, 2004.

  1. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member

    Just wondering if how many brass (esp. trom.) players know of and practice the art of doodul tonguing?? Tried to check online for a comprehensive guide, but alas, only references to Curtis Fox's book.

    For those who haven't heard of the technique,... "Doodul tonguing, a form of the legato double tongue, is a system which allows the tip of the tongue to remain in contact with the gum area behind the top front teeth during the "dul" part of the two syllable systm. This enable the attacks to become smooth and even, and makes an increase in playing velocity possible. The technique can be used in all registers, with any tempo, and at any dynamic level."

    It is used primarily because "One of the universal problems for all players of the trombone is timing - the coordination of the tongue and slide. From the beginning stages of development right up to the advanced level, trombone performers generally experience their greatest problem with the concept. And, as the musical demands of the player become more complex, the timing problems compound."
  2. lynchie

    lynchie Active Member

    I've tried it a couple of times, but never really got to grips with it... I didn't have much to go by though, just a couple of lines in a book, sort of like it was an aside to "normal" tongueing styles... What's this Curtis Fox book you speak of??
  3. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member

  4. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    It's easier on the Recorder...
  5. lewis

    lewis Member


    Doodul tonguing is a technique that was perfected by the great jazz trombinsts e.g. J.J. Johnson and Frank Rosilino. It is a very useful thing to have up your sleeve when playing in jazz ensembles and big bands, many more arrangers are writing lines for the trombone that wouldn't be out of place on the sax stands, but unfortunately it isn't a very useful trick to have in the orchestra or brass band because it is almost impossible to play "straight" quavers doing it.

    If you are still interested in trying the technique out then Mark Nightingale has a couple of study books out on Warwick's label and although they are not specifically for dooduling they are great studeis to put the technique into practise.

    Good luck.
  6. Wendy

    Wendy New Member

    Also the Bill Watrous book 'Trombonisms' mentions this. It has a little record/ CD with demonstrations. An excellent book for progressing your technique