Desperate help with Sibelius!!!!!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by James McFadyen, Feb 4, 2004.

  1. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

    Anybody know wher I can get the User Guide for Sibelius 2?

    Or is the user guide the help file in the sibelius folder????

    Need to know advanced stuff about typesetting Avant Garde scores!!!!
  2. Roger Thorne

    Roger Thorne Active Member

    Its supplied with the disk when you buy it!

  3. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

    Oh yes of course I forgot.........................I bought it! :wink:

    does anyone, even u roger, know where I can download it, can't get it from the Sibelius site at all.
  4. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

    It's ok, just found out u can't download it at all, u have to get them to send a replacement. If anybody wants to email me it or put it on a web server for me, I would be most greatful ;)
  5. Roger Thorne

    Roger Thorne Active Member

    Click on the blue question mark on the toolbar and this should take you into the Acrobat Reader version of the handbook.

  6. Roger Thorne

    Roger Thorne Active Member

    Can I refer you to our copyright fact sheet facility. Books are subject to copyright laws as well as music. Or if you would like to ask a specific question I'll try and help you as much as I can.

  7. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Given some of the sympathy we've been asked to give recently to producers of music who are being deprived of income by illegal copying, it's perhaps worth noting that computer programmers are in the same boat...

    Not that I'm condoning Sibelius' rip-off pricing structure that reeks of corporate greed, but...

  8. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

    I find it crazy how u cannot get the user guide off the Sibelius website! Most other software I have u can get the User Guide easily legally.

    I clicked the Blue Question mark but it came up with that 169-page guide that only briefly touches on most of the aspects and usually says see User Guide for more information.

    I'll locate it! I'm sure! but thanks anyway! :lol:
  9. stopher

    stopher Member

    Surprised you use Sibelius James, after one of your previous postings?!?!?!?
  10. super_sop

    super_sop Supporting Member

    tut tut tut, are you saying you also have "other software". and i thought you were paying thousands for all this stuff!!
  11. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

    :) not for composing brass band/orchestral works - for typesetting.

    Although Sibelius 3 seems to have solved the main gripe I have with composing directly on siblelius - called Focus on Staves!!! If I get Sibelius 3, I might change my view completely, and start composing all my music directly on the computer.
  12. hunting_high

    hunting_high Member

    And when you buy version 3 you get the new user manual with it.

    And not only that: Its totally legal. :wink:

  13. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

  14. JessopSmythe

    JessopSmythe Active Member


    Given your previous position on Sibelius, that would be a turn around worthy of a New Labour politician.
  15. cornetgirl

    cornetgirl Active Member

    Handbags at dawn!

    Any other medical tMPers.....I could need assistance here! :wink:

    Rach x
  16. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

    There is no need to digging up the past, I know what I said.

    For me, at this moment, unhappy to compose a full Brass Band score directly on the computer.

    I have composed directly on the computer for a string orchestra.

    The sibelius thread was written before Sibelius 3 came out, and becasue of this new facility on Sibelius 3, it enable unused portions of the score to be hidden and zoom in on active staves. It's too much faffing around on a 17" monitor with a full brass band score - you need to be able to see the whole score VERY clearly, hearing it is simply not enough, IMHO.

    Until I buy Sibelius 3 and try out the new feature, I shall stick to manuscript and paper for the most part - there is simply is no other way for me at the moment. I don't know how a composer can work without seeing the whole score clearly all the time throughout the entire process. Like I said, I do write String Orchestra and other ensemble that take up very few staves, since all the music can be seen clearly at all times at a reasonable zoom level.

    Anyhow, Let's not go digging up old dirt, now. ;)

    Other disagree, other agree, the point it, I suppose do whatever is right for you and what gives the best results (NOT just sound-wise) but from a learning perspective.
  17. Okiedokie of Oz

    Okiedokie of Oz Active Member

    Are we gonna laughing gas him if he ends up in pain????????

  18. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

    I totally do no get that joke. :roll:
  19. jameshowell

    jameshowell Active Member

    I agree james, Sibelius 3 does make huge improvements in general on all older releases, and the Zoom function is making life much easier!

    Another handy feature is the Kontakt Player and the create .wav file function. Great for submitting those compositions to teachers and examiners!

    And midi playback has improved as well, though still doesn't compare to getting live playback by real people. But as computer playback goes, it's getting there slowly...

    And as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, for us student Sibelius is just a little heftily priced...
  20. James McFadyen

    James McFadyen New Member

    I have just investigated the Kontakt/Siblelius soundset, and although a very reasonable sound is produced (a few sample ever come from the Peter. S series) but the whole soundset still sounds too sampled for my liking.

    However thery are good for mock-up's, but that's baout it really, strings are good, but still sound sampled, mainly due to the fact that it's a Violin patch and u can switch to different samples every note - but hey Like I said in another thread, if these sound were equal to the sample libraries I have Sibelius would be very expensive - so for the price I give it a big thumbs up for value for money! No contest whatsoever. :wink:

    I'll stick to my sample libraries, much much much better quality - just means I'll have to spend hours and hours doing it!