In part this thread reminds me of the one that got one member banned (I think it was Red October but I cannot be certain). As I recall part of the issue was players being flown in and paid decent sums of money to ‘Dep’. I feel sure that there have been several other threads on this topic over recent years too. Yes, if you’re in a band that didn’t win at a contest then no doubt there is a grieving and reflective process. You went to win after raising much money to compete and also expending vast amounts of time and effort to do so. It’s only reasonable to wonder whether your band was disadvantaged by the gamesmanship of other groups and, if there is some indication that that might have been the case, to feel cheated out of a rightful reward for your efforts. Trouble is when it comes to money and glory the ethics of most people go out of the window - if in doubt about that then have a look at our various political leaders. Edit. I see that Tom has posted in response to an earlier comment of mine (“The problem is that this is almost entirely unenforceable”) and do see his several points. I didn’t say it would be easy just that things needed to change for the better - better is not necessarily perfection. A decade or so back I was talking to an ex-military player of some skill. He openly told me how he was drafted in to bands to help them win competitions, is that gamesmanship or just plain cheating?