Dental Financial Extraction !!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by iancwilx, Nov 4, 2004.

  1. iancwilx

    iancwilx Active Member

    Have you ever tried to find a good NHS Dentist ?
    I have had to go privately as the only NHS guy near us is a "Butcher".
    Last Tuesday I went for a check up and a clean and polish, no treatment of any kind, and I was charged £69.00 - I'm obviously in the wrong job !!!!!!
    Is this a pretty average charge or a rip off ??
  2. Red Elvis

    Red Elvis Active Member

    My sympathies !! No NHS treatment available in central London , so I am now poorer to the tune of 3 grand following work done over the summer!!
  3. Will the Sec

    Will the Sec Active Member

    Aboslute rip off.

    I had a clean & polish, check up and a filling repaired for under £30.

    Ask to see his price chart.
  4. flugelgal

    flugelgal Active Member

    You should also try getting an NHS Dentist in the North East of Scotland... :-?
  5. bass bone tim

    bass bone tim New Member

    I don't care that there is no NHS dentists. Im a dental student so get free priority treatment in my hospital, and will earn a fortune in a few years time. Im doing it because i kept hearing about people like you guys who complain about the price. I cant go wrong if I earn that much! people have to pay if they want the treatment! :lol:
  6. lynchie

    lynchie Active Member

    I just don't go to the dentist... god help me if I ever get any problems...
  7. Bryan_sop

    Bryan_sop Active Member

    I don't go to the dentist either. Haven't been since 1999 :oops: Hated dentists since I was a kid and needed 2 teeth out and the anaesthetic didn't seem to work properly. Thing is, I don't care how much it costs cos I've got health insurance that pays for it! :shock:
  8. ju33les

    ju33les Member

    Along the same vein as my NHS thread reply........ take lots of heroin, get prescribed Methadone as a substitute and all your dental problems just fall away. Literally, just like all your teeth!!:D

    Note to Mods, I'm not recommending anyone does the above:-?
  9. Brian Bowen

    Brian Bowen Active Member

    For a comparison with prices in the USA, here's what I paid just this week:

    Cleaning/polish $68.00 (£36.86)
    Oral evaluation by the dentist $36.00 (£19.50)
    Bitewings x 4 (X-rays) $46.00 (£24.94)

    I pay for these services twice a year, except for X-rays, which are taken only once a year. There is only private dentistry in the USA.
  10. flugelgal

    flugelgal Active Member

    Well, I moved up to the North East of Scotland last year. Since then I haven't been able to register with an NHS dentist. There is one dentist in the whole of Grampian Region that is taking on new NHS patients - and it's only children and pregnant women that are being taken on. I can't afford to go private and I object having to pay for something that I should be able to get on the NHS. As soon as a dentist in this area opens their list, it closes almost immediately as it fills up once word gets out.

    Oh well, where I'm going there is no NHS, so I don't mind having to pay when I go there... ;)
  11. cornetgirl

    cornetgirl Active Member

    I agree - some private dentists charge the earth!

    I'm a rarity - I am actually an NHS dentist. I never wanted to "sell out" into the private sector, partly because I'm hoping to enter specialist training very soon, and also because there is a real need for NHS dentists. Consequently, I work in a Dental Access Centre (kinda like Casualty for teeth) where it's very obvious how big the need is - we operate from the centre of Hull and have to turn away 20 patients in pain every day because we've filled the clinic.

    My typical day includes dental phobics, drug addicts, the homeless, asylum seekers and people who simply cannot afford private charges. Personally, I couldn't afford some of the prices I've seen, but I understand the need to keep a surgery running (the average running cost is £120 per dentist per hour - at £6 per checkup in the NHS, you do the maths!!!).

    The worrying thing is that there is a new contract coming out in April for general practice dentists, where dentists are paid a flat fee instead of the current piecework system. Already many are going private and I suspect it will get worse - which will mean that the likes of us at the DACs will have to turn away even more patients....

    My sympathies to everyone who is struggling - but please don't land all the blame on us - blame the lovely people in Government who make it impossible for many dentists to provide an NHS service due to running costs, staffing etc.

    I left practice 7 months ago to join the salaried service and it's so much better - you have the time to spend coaxing people into the chair and the facilities to do sedation etc. without the financial pressure of breaking even or feeliung skint because you need a holiday...

    Rach x
  12. cornetgirl

    cornetgirl Active Member

    Don't forget... you have to do your first year in NHS practice!!!!! It's a real eye-opener...

    You at Newcastle? Say hi to Doc Brown and Prof Seymour from me as they were my tutors! Is Sandy the canteen lady still there yelling "teacake" at the top of her voice?

    Rach x
  13. Will the Sec

    Will the Sec Active Member

    Dental Phobics...

    Aah, that would be me. Today I had prep work for a crown, costing £125. The remaining work will cost another £125 in a few weeks, when the crown is ready. If I hadn't been on strike today (come the revolution there will be 10 million civil servants, brothers and sisters!) I would have had to take the rest of the day off to get over the shock.

    My phobia is two fold.

    1. I was the only child of seven to have any fillings as an adolescent. Because of the way the dental "trade" was organised, I was sent, along with all the other children in my school year, to a particular dentist. My siblings went elsewhere. I had eight fillings from this particular dentist. Subsequently, he was prosecuted for claiming NHS charges under false pretenses, including inserting unnecessary fillings. Given that my siblings were all filling free on the same basic diet, and adding that to the prosecution, it is hard to believe that my fillings were necessary.

    2. When seeing another dentist, after moving from the above refered to, I came across a sadist. He said, "This won't hurt," and then put a drill into a tooth without giving me an injection, hit a nerve (I'm surmising) making me leap from the chair and smack my head on the light. I ended up with 13 stitches. Bizarrely, I didn't say anything, let him complete the treatment, and then went to get my head wound seen to. I was even too embarrassed to tell my mother. I wore caps for a couple of weeks to disguise the stitches. I don't think even LBB knew about it. (I'm sure he'll put me right if he did.)

    The first dentist is dead now, but every time I end up in the dentist, and I have to be in real pain before I'll even consider it, I curse the bar steward.
  14. Craigsav83

    Craigsav83 Active Member

    Dentists are no fun. I had to force myself to go after being able to eat nothing but soup and creamed rice for a week :-(

    Seventy of my precious pounds to get a filling privatly, and another eighty for cleaning, polishing, x-rays and more fillings!

    Its daylight robbery!!!!
  15. markymark

    markymark New Member

    Good NHS dentist near us
    x-ray, root canal, scale and polish, 3 appointments came to £27
    x-ray, molar extraction (3weeks ago) £9, on a sunday!. Pretty nice people too and all females (so if it came to a fight to get out of the seat and escape I should be ok)

    to anyone who thinks its a good idea to not visit the dentist regularly....... it is'nt

    Ratby Co-op
  16. cornetgirl

    cornetgirl Active Member

    I agree - seeing people in their 20s who've never been to a dentist in their life then they come to me in pain is a very sobering experience!

    I wish there was a solution to the problem.... but Mr. Blair and his pals don't have one so we end up looking like the bad guys!

    Move to Hull and ring us in pain - we'll try and see you!!!

    Rach x
  17. bigmamabadger

    bigmamabadger Active Member

    My Dentist is lovely. He bought the practice about 4 years ago and kept on all the old NHS patients!.
    I had a root canal done last year which only came to £34 in total and all the work on my new crown (which had to go back once cos it was badly made) came to £116. He does X-rays for free at the moment because he loves playing with his new computer so much...
    At first he had no patience with me because I'm a dentophobe too, but once I explained exactly why, (was also given 2 fillings sans anaesthetic by a sadist) he was much more sympathetic.
    If Doctors can be NHS, why can't Dentists?
  18. cornetgirl

    cornetgirl Active Member

    I wish I knew, BMB....

    It seems that some of my colleagues are more motivated by the fast cars and big houses than the idea of providing a service for those who need it most...

    I do get very disillusioned by the profession (in case you hadn't noticed), which I think is why I'm going to specialise and stay within the NHS hospital setup. I want to specialise in kids and special needs - two groups who can be neglected in practice.

    It seems the dental profession will never be what it should be in some respects, which makes me sad...

    Rach x
  19. Di

    Di Active Member

    I wonder if this is the same group of females who used to run the Barlestone practice. I could well be, as once when I had to go for emergency treatment out of Barlestone hours, I was sent to Ratby.

    I'm currently looking for somewhere to go for a second opinion. A few weeks ago (I know, I've been on holiday and I've been putting it off), I went for my check up and said that I thought I'd lost a filling (which had previously cost me £350!! where I'd cracked a tooth and they'd had to get a frame round it to fill it out). I thought it would be a simple refill. But no, she drilled for ages and ages, did lots of pulling and tugging bits out and in the end said I'd got a crack from front to back and basically my tooth was now hanging in in two separate parts. She fetched her hubby in (the other half of the partnership) to explain the process of removing one half and using the other to gradually, over several treatments, build it up to represent a tooth ... to the cost of approx £650. Has anyone else had this done? Does this figure sound about right? Should I see someone else? I have tried asking another local dentist to take a look, again I think one who used to work at our surgery, but they have a 6 month waiting list to either take on new NHS patients or to see someone privately. :(

    As it stands at the moment, I have a temporary filling in and am having no problems whatsoever with the tooth, so I'm wondering why it can't just be filled and done with? I think its "number 6" if that's any help.
  20. millie6589

    millie6589 Member

    I was at the dentist a couple of weeks ago and was there for less than 2 mins- got charged £35. And was told i need to go back in a couple of weeks for some work done, and depending on the extent of it, could cost up to £80 :eek: but its nothing major, just a cracked filling!

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