Daily Mail Tuesday 5th September

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Hornblower RN, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. Hornblower RN

    Hornblower RN Member

    South Wales
    Anybody read Roy Hattersley's column re Grimethorpe on page 18 of today's Daily Mail?
    If so what are your thoughts?
    British Open is on Sunday according to him:oops:
    "Being the best band in YorKshire makes us the best band in the country"...a quote apparently by Grimethorpe sec Terry Webster........;)
    "The trophies which decorate the band room walls confirm that Grimethorpe is also the best known brass band in the world".......Has he never heard of Black Dyke?:clap:
    I'm sure you may have something to say after you read the article. :biggrin:
  2. brassintheed

    brassintheed Member

    If we're not just talking about people in the 'brass band know', the best known brass band in the world is probably Brighouse ("the one that did that Floral Dance thing, or was it Terry Wogan?...."), closely followed by Grimethorpe (or rather "that band from Brassed off") followed by Stocksbridge (or "that band form the Full Monty")
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  3. VenusTromster

    VenusTromster Member

    Well what do you expect, he is an ex-politician, he can't get it all right. Just goes to show that what you read in the papers isn't all true. :rolleyes:

    At least he had the decency to turn up to a rehearsal and ask questions. It’s not always possible to get it all right with one quick interview when you’re not an expert on Brass Bands - although as a journalist you'd think that he would try.

    The band might also be known more world wide due to the film that it starred in (perhaps he got that confused with the trophies - but there are still a lot of them). But then again why did he decide to visit a Grimey rehearsal and not a Black Dyke one? Maybe because in his eyes they are the most famous. Just something to think about.

    I guess a little bit more publicity to the banding movement can't hurt, even if the date is wrong.:D
  4. SuperMosh

    SuperMosh New Member

    At least the Mail published this. Anybody know of any other good recent National publicity for a band???:confused:
  5. Anno Draconis

    Anno Draconis Well-Known Member

    Aaah, The Daily Mail. What a beacon of quality journalism that esteemed organ is. And so useful for cutting into squares when the Andrex runs out.

    Please, if you want accurate writing that involves more research than having watched telly for a few days, buy something else. Preferably something that doesn't have Roy "Splattersme" Hattersley writing for it.
  6. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member

    But ... all said and done ... no news is bad news!
  7. Kiz7

    Kiz7 Member


    i read and reread this several times today before making my mind up what I thought of it. In the end i came to the conclusion that
    A) most bands would have killed for this level of high publicity - I live in Glos and read about it! - so there would inevitably be some crisitsm of the article as it reached a wider audience than most articles do.
    B) how inspired, or how good the marketing manager from, Grimethorpe are/is as this is a rather large article in a very well read newspaper that will reach many potential sponsors.
    C) I hope the judges at this weekend (be it Saturday or Sunday - at least it was publicised!) don't read the Daily Mail and are influenced! Maybe it is time to ban adjudicator's from reading the press in the run up to a contest like juries are - GOD forbid!

    This article really does open a can of worms - whilst i truly believe that the article was meant only to promote brass bands (and, of course, Grimethorpe) in a positive light, and many bands may benefit from such an article, only one band could, potentially, lose out - Grimethorpe.

    Yes, they may well win this weekend BUT how many will then question the validity of their win on the basis of the high profile article?

    Worse, they may come nowhere and then the conspiracy theorists can rear their ugly head with the "ah well, the adjudicator's must have read the article and decided to take a stand" theory.

    This article could become a bit of a poison chalice for Grimey - but I hope not!

    All the best to EVERYONE, and well done Grimey for a bit of inspried publicity!
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  8. zak

    zak Member

    St Helens
    I must admit that I have not read the article in question. However I feel the need to comment after reading numerous threads on this forum over the past year or so about lack of publicity etc etc for brass bands. I think that this article shows nothing more than A BAND PUBLICISING THEMSELVES WELL!!! :clap:

    Other bands such as Black Dyke, Buy as you view etc publicise themselves regularly by various means such as The Bandsman etc etc etc which IS ALSO A VERY GOOD THING so I'm a little dumbfounded that brass band people moan about a band making an effort. :clap:

    In my opinion, Grimey are to people outside the brass band world, probably the most famous brass band due to the film. I'm not saying that Brighouse, Dyke etc etc aren't famous, but outside the brass banding world the film is more recent and more well remembered by non-banders.

    This is my own personal opinion and in no way connected with my former band.

  9. JDH

    JDH Member

    I read the article and thought it good publicity for Grimethorpe and the brass band movement.

    The press never get all the facts right as you soon find out if it a subject you know well, but this for once puts banding in a favourable light to the general public, so should be welcomed by us all.
  10. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    Hadleigh, Essex
    As a regular Mail reader - not, I may add, because of its politics!!! - I usually read Roy Hattersley's column: regardless of your political outlook, he is a good writer, making his subjects accessible and often writing of everyday things with both affection and insight.

    I am sure there will be many who will have gained a little better insight into the brass band by reading his column, regardless of any minor factual inaccuracies. Incidentally, the quote about Grimethorpe being "the best band in Yorkshire" was made specifically in relation to their win at the Yorkshire Area Contest in March. With the snapshot portraits of various players, and some background to the test piece and the contest itself, I think it is an excellent example of how to raise the profile of banding without going down the road of gimmickry and triviality.
  11. helen_euph

    helen_euph Member

    St.Helens, Merseyside
    I agree totally and think that any positive publicity (even if not 100% accurate by some TMP-er's accounts) has got to be a good thing for the band movement in general.

    There is not solely one best known or best band in the world, but several, including Grimethorpe (amongst others). Lets not 'dispute' who is the best/best known of these bands, but just be pleased that the banding movement has been advertised in a national newspaper! :clap:
  12. brassintheed

    brassintheed Member

    Agreed 100% (My point earlier was actually tongue in cheek to that show 'most famous' depends on your point of view)
  13. James Yelland

    James Yelland Active Member

    Hinckley, Leicestershire
    I have never understood why anyone should be apologetic about which newspaper they read. People generally read the newspaper which most chimes with their own political views.

    In the case of the Daily Mail, its employment of Roy Hattersley, an old Labour socialist, as a columnist indicates the Mail's politics as being distinctly left of centre. Yes?
  14. 2nd man down

    2nd man down Moderator Staff Member

    You'd think it would be safe to assume that.

    Regarding the article, I haven't read it, but I figure any publicity, slightly innacurate or not, can only be a good thing for the movement provided it is written in such a way as to cast a favourable light on bands.
  15. stevetrom

    stevetrom Well-Known Member

    In your opinion !
  16. Bungle

    Bungle Member

    East Sussex
    What we have here is potential ally of the Brass Band movement, who could help in raising funding for brass instrument tuition. He also sits in the House of Lords. Couldn't find an email address for him there, but there probably is one. A posssible contact for the federation I think.
  17. starperformer

    starperformer Member

    actually a lot of people choose to read papers which challenge their views.

    this would be funny if people realised you were joking.

    personally when it comes to the daily mail i find it one compromise too far - call me decadent, but i prefer the beano as a comic book and andrex for the bog.
  18. johnmartin

    johnmartin Active Member

    Personally I don't give a **** what a newspapers politics are. As long as they have a decent football coverage that's good enough for me.

    Well done to Grimey for some positive promotion.

    Edit by 2md. Please try to refrain from the use of bad language. We have children present.
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  19. DaveR

    DaveR Active Member

    Reading, UK
    A good point well made.
  20. James Yelland

    James Yelland Active Member

    Hinckley, Leicestershire
    I think most of tmp's contributorswill have recognised the comment as the joke it was. I think you may be underestimating their intelligence.
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