Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by HBB, Apr 5, 2005.

  1. HBB

    HBB Active Member

    Hi All,

    Trying to work out what to do with my life.

    Where's got the best place for composition for a degree type thing?

  2. Naomi McFadyen

    Naomi McFadyen New Member

    I think the best thing for you Ben is to do a BA hons degree somewhere, either Salford, Hudds, RNCM, whatever takes your fancy and then go on to do a Compositional Master Degree...

    Remember though you'll find it tough *just* making a living out of composing! ;-) so good to dib and dab with a bit of everything...

    Good luck
  3. HBB

    HBB Active Member

    What BA hons degree can you do at RNCM?
  4. Naomi McFadyen

    Naomi McFadyen New Member

    if thats the right address I'm sure they'll tell ya on the site.... get a prospectus for all the mian universities... the ones I've mentioned above and also the London Colleges....
  5. Straightmute

    Straightmute Active Member

    ...or come for a visit to York St John College and I'll give you a personal tour! Composition is a big part of what we do.

  6. lottie4744

    lottie4744 Member

    Ben, speak to Tongy, I'm sure he said his degree @ the academy let's you pick and choose at what you want to concentrate on.
  7. drummerboy

    drummerboy Member

    If you want to go and do just composition, I'd look at the Welsh College of Music or Birmingham Conservatoire. Can't remember the websites, but just google them.
    Composition is quite tough to get into, certainly at the Welsh, as it's a small course but a good one so there'll be much competition!
    Good luck
  8. WhatSharp?

    WhatSharp? Active Member

    And there was me thinking you'd sold your soul to Language and law! :D
    NYBBGB must have had an influence on you! :D
  9. Chris Sanders

    Chris Sanders Active Member

    RNCM would probably best for a Music Degree focused om general composition...

    However if you are focusing mainly on Brass Band Composition, Salford has the best tutors in their respective genre...
  10. Dave Euph

    Dave Euph Member

    Being the completely biased person I am, Huddersfield is seen as an excellent place for composition. However, they like to specialise in contemporary music where possible.

    If you want to write mostly band stuff, there are probably some more suitable tutors at Salford. The list doesn't stop with those two though!
  11. Andy_Euph

    Andy_Euph Active Member

    What, you Dave...never :wink:
  12. Seedhouse

    Seedhouse Active Member

    Really glad to see your thinking of going to Uni to do Composition Ben. You know I think your compo's are wicked anyway! ;) Go to RNCM!!! :D
  13. ScaryFlugel

    ScaryFlugel Member

    Coo, your marketing director would be proud of you ;-) !

    (BTW, I wish I knew what to do with my life so if the originator of this thread ever solves the dilemma please let me know!)
  14. Hi not sure myself but i know someone who's doing composition at Newcastle and he seems to be enjoying it. Hope you find somewhere and good luck with it!
  15. Andy_Euph

    Andy_Euph Active Member

    Not sure about anymore but a few years ago the tutor of composition at Newcastle was some Peruvian dude, so I'm sure it'd be an experience.

    Salford is ok but as i'm only finishing my first year I can't reall comment as we've not really done much composing but arranging, guessing full on composition comes in year two
  16. Naomi McFadyen

    Naomi McFadyen New Member

    Full on composing comes in year 3 wen, or if, should I say, you do the elective...

    Year 2 I did Music for the Stage and 20th Century
    Year 3 Brass Band and Windband arranging... with the elective on top.

    Ben doesn't nessessarily want to do a composition degree though, so he tells me.... ;-)
  17. HBB

    HBB Active Member

    No. Naruco is correct (1st for everything :p).

    Ideally I'd love to do a Music Degree, first study in playing and a 2nd study in composition.. but i'm just waiting for the prospecti to arrive (in't that word great... prospecti :mrgreen:)
  18. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member


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  19. Dave Euph

    Dave Euph Member

    And to further spice up the mix, HBB would certainly not go wrong with Huddersfield. In your second year it could be one third of assessment on performance and one third on composition.

    Not as though I'm trying to lure him in any particular direction. :wink:

    TIMBONE Active Member

    Unfortunately, in the society we live in, 'creativity' is not a means to earning a living, and if you are 'in the right place at the right time' your creativity is still subject to what is wanted not what your creative instinct naturally wants to do. Even music itself is still seen as a 'cinderella' subject, and governments still see music in education as something they feel is wasting public money. Indeed, the realistic Ted Wragg, a musician who often spoke out about what was going on in education, even said at a conference I once attended, that if Margaret Thatcher had not been out of the country at the time, music would not even have been in the National Curriculum.

    My advice is, study music because you love it, get as much knowledge and education as you possibly can, try as hard as you possibly can to earn a living from it, and don't take no for an answer. However, always remember that, when all eventualities have been explored, it may still be just a hobby.

    As far as composing is concerned, here is something which Sir John Manduel said, (the first principal of the RNCM). If you compose a piece of music and it is never even played, you have still performed a creative act, and this is the most important thing.

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