Calibrating a tuner!

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by MattB, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. MattB

    MattB Member

    My tuner went belly up last night and has set itself to god knows what! Anyone know what tuners should be set to? When i play a c its saying an f sharp!

    Help!!
     
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  3. Di

    Di Active Member

    I think its 442. But praps someone else can confirm that?
     
  4. NeilW

    NeilW Member

    A440 or C523.3 is so called "standard pitch" (http://www.uk-piano.org/history/pitch.html)

    The BBC "pips" time signal is quite a handy A if you can record it and loop it...

    That being said, the master oscilator in your tuner probably will be running at some multiple of 440 (have you dropped it and could you have disturbed internal components?). If you're lucky, there may be a "trimmer" in there to fine tune the frequency its using...

    Neil.
     
  5. Di

    Di Active Member

    Yea OK 440 sits nicely with C on the piano
     
  6. Anglo Music Press

    Anglo Music Press Active Member

    Most percussion in your band will be at A=442, so it's probably best to use that.
     
  7. Di

    Di Active Member

    Woo. Right on first instincts.

    Thanks Philip. ;)
     
  8. NeilW

    NeilW Member

    So, that's musicians use A=440, drummers use A=442.

    Hmmmm.... :biggrin:

    The obvious question is WHY the percussion department haven't adopted the ISO musical pitch that's been around for 3/4 of a century?

    Neil.
     
  9. Anglo Music Press

    Anglo Music Press Active Member

    I'm no expert, but I think A=442 is the general standard these days. I bet your horn was tuned to that!
     
  10. NeilW

    NeilW Member

    Interesting.... ISO 16:1975 (Acoustics -- Standard tuning frequency (Standard musical pitch)) abstract says (having looked it up!):

    "Specifies the frequency for the note A in the treble stave and shall be 440 Hz. Tuning and retuning shall be effected by instruments producing it within an accuracy of 0,5 Hz."

    ( Acoustics -- Standard tuning frequency (Standard musical pitch)

    aren't the musical instrument manufacturers using it (yet)?

    Mind you, 2Hz isn't much to be "different" - well covered up by even slight vibrato :) However, its a nice beat if you CAN hold a note straight...

    Neil.
     
  11. Dave Payn

    Dave Payn Active Member

    442 standard? I thought that was only in football! :)

    As for your tuner, Matt; could be that your battery's on the wane.....
     
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  13. Keppler

    Keppler Moderator Staff Member

    for anyone interested... the frequency relationship between 2 notes of an interval (in semitones) is governed by:
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    where fi is the interval frequency
    fb is the base note frequency
    and i is the interval width in semitones.

    Just in case anyone wanted to know..
    so yes, at middle C level, (261.6Hz) 2Hz is not going to make that much difference.

    As you tune lower instruments though, the impact a 2Hz difference has, increases.
     
  14. Di

    Di Active Member

    :eek:

    Has anyone ever called you a BOC before Kepps? :tongue:;)
     
  15. Keppler

    Keppler Moderator Staff Member

    they have, but I thought they were lying...
     
  16. Will the Sec

    Will the Sec Active Member

    Have you consulted the manual? :rolleyes:

    Mine has a button to change the key, so if you select the Key of Bb, it will show a C when the usual cornet tuning note is played. Depressing it twice in succession resets it to concert pitch.
     
  17. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member

    .... fair point! Find the reset button! Easiest way out. ;)
     
  18. Naomi McFadyen

    Naomi McFadyen New Member

    440 is the scientific frequency, not 442....... 442 is too sharp :p
    but at the end of the day, so long as the band are in tune................... ;-)
    440... 442............. doesnt really matter... it's a frequency, not a note.
     
  19. glen miler

    glen miler Member

    Matt,

    Having sat behind you in band I am shocked to find out you own a tuner, but not surprised that if you do it doesn't work.
     
  20. mikelyons

    mikelyons Supporting Member

    Give that man a toffee apple. :clap::clap::clap:
     

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