British Bandsman Editor thread

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Bay Strombone, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. Bay Strombone

    Bay Strombone New Member

    New Bandsman Editor

    Hello all!

    As you all know, SP&S have acquired the British Bandsman. Who do tMPers think should get the job of Editor?

    Obviously, candidates should be well-respected, learned, and impartial.

    For the life of me, I really can't think of anyone in prominence who fits the bill. Any ideas?
  2. Roger Thorne

    Roger Thorne Active Member

    You may or may not be aware that this thread was removed by the Moderators yesterday morning. After a long discussion the tMP team have now decided to re-instate the thread.

  3. IckleSop

    IckleSop Active Member

    I mostly dont think its who suits the title but who wants the responsibility of such a huge job.
  4. Keith Stanley James Lever

    Keith Stanley James Lever Supporting Member

    Why not give the job to Boris Johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  5. IckleSop

    IckleSop Active Member

    errrrrrrr ok?!?!
  6. Red Elvis

    Red Elvis Active Member

    I read the article by Trevor Cafful in "The Bandsman" 9th Oct, which set my mind at rest.As an ex-salvationist I had doubts about whether the purchase of the mag was a suitable investment of the SA's funds , and as an "outside" ( sorry , horrible term I know ) bandsman I do not want the SA "Parking their tanks on our lawn". Trevor's words reasured me greatly - I don't have any suggestions in terms of a name but feel that any decision will be made carefully with regard played to the sensibilities of all relevant parties.
  7. choirmaster

    choirmaster Member

    Who gets the job of editor is not a concern of mine at all, as long as he/she has integrity and can put the interests of the brass band movement above all else.
    Also, I wouldn't like to see 'The.. bandsman' becoming like 'The Salvationist' in terms of hiding things from its membership (readership) like a communist state.
  8. Red Elvis

    Red Elvis Active Member

    "Pravda" was a lot more open than "Salvationist" ever was ( and probably still is !!!)
  9. Sonny Barker

    Sonny Barker Member

    With the emergence of online resources, such as tMP and others, perhaps the idea of a printed bandsman is in need of re-appraisal.

    Will SP&S want a more Christian outlook? Can that work in our increasingly multicultural society?

    I've got a headache...
  10. Roger Thorne

    Roger Thorne Active Member

    I must be honest I had my doubts about SP&S acquiring BB. But since Trevor and his team have taken charge the standard of publication has already considerably improved. However, I tend to agree with Sonny, that maybe the days of this 'specialist' printed tabloid should now be pushed into the realms of 'cyberspace'. The possibilites and opportunities for such a magazine to appear on-line must be very tempting, especially with the popularity of tMP and 4BarsRest.

  11. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    I think there will always be a role for a well-produced printed journal, but I would see its success depending more on in-depth features than just supplying news items, which as has already been said are now quickly disseminated via the net. Equally, there will be those who either have no access to the internet, or no interest in such technology, as well as the "archive" factor, in that people sometimes like to have issues or articles to look back on - I know they can be printed off from the net, but it is somehow not the same.

    What is vital, I feel, is that the standard of proof-reading and checking is raised from what we have seen over the past few years, and also that an openly critical standpoint is able to be taken, both regarding reviews of performance and/or recording, and also any policy decisions that may be affecting the banding world.

    It may also be advisable to use the heading "Advertising feature", or something similar, if an article is included largely intended to promote a forthcoming cd release.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2004
  12. ScrapingtheBottom

    ScrapingtheBottom Active Member

    To be fair though Peter, most quality journals have a considerable web presence too. Speaking as someone who reads professional journals and news magazines almost everyday, all good journals have a web presence (albeit in many cases it is subscription based). I think you must have multimedia output to be successful in this market. Also, pandering to ludditism is not compatible with the forward looking attitude of a magazine that wishes to engage the next generation of readership (which it must do in order to survive).

    It also does concern me that a religious publishing house has taken control of what is essentially a secular magazine with readership that is not neccesarily christian (like myself!), I hope the obvious conflict of interests can be resolved.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2004
  13. mikelyons

    mikelyons Supporting Member

    I have some reservations about the 'imperialist' ambitions of SP&S. Perhaps evangelism has its place in religion, but I worry that, without wishing to be offensive, SP&S might be trying to give it a place in mainstream banding. I would hope that they would not take this purchase as an opportunity to promote their particular beliefs at the expense of the secular banders.

    As I have said in another thread, I believe in God, but I don't believe in organised religion or 'theatre for the religious' and I find evangelicism and religious propaganda deeply offensive - just as offensive as I find any other form of fanaticism.

    My point - let's keep God out of it as much as possible, please.
  14. Rebel Tuba

    Rebel Tuba Member

    Worries, I think its a travisty that the BB has been taken over by the SP&S. Two worlds that are linked by the love of music is how it should stay.

    Whats next the National finals, where every band MUST play a hymn tune before each test piece.

    I know this is extreme, but it is also very worrying for non-salvationists the direction the movement is going
  15. Cantonian

    Cantonian Active Member

    Would the concerned (as yet unfounded concerns) non-Salvationists posting rather have seen the demise of BB?
  16. jpbray

    jpbray Member

    I think 4BR has stole the clothes of the British Bandsman. Their website is poor and not kept up to date. If they are going to a make contribution they need to take a look at website like National Geographic, New Scientist for instance, where the web site and the magazine sustain each other.
  17. JR

    JR Member

    I nominate their star journo Tabby Clegg (cos she's a mate of mine and actually gets things factually correct!!)
    Failing that how about John Clark (see4br) for controversy?
    Failing that how about Howard Snell for the strictly secular approach?
    Anyone other than a Salvation Army hack...

    john roberts
  18. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    Regarding the BB website, when it first started it was only a contact point for people wanting to take up subscriptions. When they did start putting news headlines on, they never seem to have taken it seriously, but in its present form it seems worse than useles.

    Regarding the suggestion of "a Salvation Army hack" being installed as Editor, I think that is most unlikely, and I am unaware of anyone within the SA with the necessary background in both banding and journalism that will be needed to carry the job off successfully.
  19. Bones

    Bones Member

    Rather than have someone who is either secular or non secular, how about a complete outsider. Someone who has the ability to shape the strategy for a publication rather than write about how much weight Nick Childs has lost, or where the ISB is these days.

    (Absolutely no cynicism meant about either Nick or the ISB, only wish I could lose weight, and play the trombone like Andrew Justice :))
  20. Bones

    Bones Member

    Be a shame if she did get promoted. She wouldn;t be able to write the qaulity stuff she does.

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