Alternative FIngering

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Farmer Giles, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. Farmer Giles

    Farmer Giles Member

    Hi all

    i have been having a look through my copy of Tristan, and i am going to have a lot of fun with Trans V (second 2nd Cornet)!

    it is written in 5 sharps and i cannot stand playing sharps, so ...........


    does anyone know what, if any alternative fingerings i could use to make this easier ?

    the runs start on a bottom b, go up to c#, and back down again several times.

    all help greatly appreciated !

    FG
     
  2. Maestro

    Maestro Active Member

    Just practice the B Major scale? :wink:
     
  3. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    Not many options for alternative fingering there! I know everyone is different, and maybe it's in part because I did not start off in brass bands, but I find the sharp keys fairly easy - in this case, the second valve stays down all the time so you've only got the other two to worry about. The alternatives, such as using 3rd for the E and A, would probably just make it more awkward.
     
  4. Farmer Giles

    Farmer Giles Member

    erm..............

    sorry for being thick, but could you explan a couple of bits from your post please ......

    1) B Major ...... is that like a normal B road, but busier ?

    2) Practice ...... surely this is just myth !

    :D

    FG
     
  5. Maestro

    Maestro Active Member

    B Major is the one where you start on B (2nd valve I believe), finish on the B above it, or in this case the C#....then waggle fingers like mad for the middle bits. This may or maynot be helpful. :oops: :oops:
     
  6. Farmer Giles

    Farmer Giles Member

    Shhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!

    i was trying to keep my technique a secret incase anyone copied it :D

    FG
     
  7. Steve

    Steve Active Member

    pull your tuning slide out and play C major or push it in and play Bb major :wink: its so much easier than learning sharps :?
     
  8. BottyBurp

    BottyBurp Member

    Insist on blowing your water out at that precise moment? Take your valves out and mess with them? :wink:
     
  9. The Cornet King

    The Cornet King Active Member

    ooooh.....shall be listening now Chris....dont worry, i believe all the cornet section has the same B major run, it just goes like a canon.

    Better get practicing!!! :D :D
     
  10. WhatSharp?

    WhatSharp? Active Member

    Join a second section band and play Kaleidascope instead :D
     
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  12. iggmeister

    iggmeister Member

    One of my most esteemed playing colleagues has a name for this technique. He calls it 'turkey valving' and tends to employ it quite often to varying degrees of effect! Also known as a 'Ted Rodger's' in some circles I understand.

    Igg
     
  13. Maestro

    Maestro Active Member

    Considering I used to play with Matthews, I guess that's where it must have come from. :wink: :wink:
     
  14. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    [quote="iggmeister Also known as a 'Ted Rodger's' in some circles I understand.

    Igg[/quote]

    Hence, 321 321 321 321... Works an absolute treat for high register Tuba playing with a fluffy articulation.

    Dave
     
  15. Di

    Di Active Member

    I've always found it easier to read in flats than sharps :oops: so how about rewriting the runs using Bn, C#, Eb, En, F#, Ab, Bb, Bn. Also if you use all three for Bb then you never have to lift the second valve.
     
  16. PeterBale

    PeterBale Moderator Staff Member

    If you want flats, you should try Cb, Db, Eb, Fb, Gb, Ab, Bb Cb :wink:

    Good idea, though, about playing the A# on 1,2,3 :lol:
     
  17. Farmer Giles

    Farmer Giles Member

    nice idea !

    i'll have a practice on that later on

    many thanks :D

    FG
     
  18. stevetrom

    stevetrom Well-Known Member

    What is all this fingering stuff about ?

    Play trombone and you don't have to worry about
     
  19. backrowbloke

    backrowbloke Member

    Youce been watching our front row closely again....I thought they all just liked to wave to the basses
     
  20. Hi FG,
    The alternative fingerings are as follows: (from bottom to top:
    E=3
    F#=123
    A#=123
    B=13
    C#= 3 or 123

    HTH
     
  21. Di

    Di Active Member

    Thats what I put to start with, but my "know it all" daughter suggested using the more common accidentals, ie, the Bn rather than Cb and F# instead of Gb and I bowed to her "superior" (ha), knowledge. :( :wink:
     
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