Alternative FIngering

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Farmer Giles, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. Farmer Giles

    Farmer Giles Member

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    Hi all

    i have been having a look through my copy of Tristan, and i am going to have a lot of fun with Trans V (second 2nd Cornet)!

    it is written in 5 sharps and i cannot stand playing sharps, so ...........


    does anyone know what, if any alternative fingerings i could use to make this easier ?

    the runs start on a bottom b, go up to c#, and back down again several times.

    all help greatly appreciated !

    FG
     
  2. Maestro

    Maestro Active Member

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    Just practice the B Major scale? :wink:
     
  3. PeterBale

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    Not many options for alternative fingering there! I know everyone is different, and maybe it's in part because I did not start off in brass bands, but I find the sharp keys fairly easy - in this case, the second valve stays down all the time so you've only got the other two to worry about. The alternatives, such as using 3rd for the E and A, would probably just make it more awkward.
     
  4. Farmer Giles

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    erm..............

    sorry for being thick, but could you explan a couple of bits from your post please ......

    1) B Major ...... is that like a normal B road, but busier ?

    2) Practice ...... surely this is just myth !

    :D

    FG
     
  5. Maestro

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    B Major is the one where you start on B (2nd valve I believe), finish on the B above it, or in this case the C#....then waggle fingers like mad for the middle bits. This may or maynot be helpful. :oops: :oops:
     
  6. Farmer Giles

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    Shhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!

    i was trying to keep my technique a secret incase anyone copied it :D

    FG
     
  7. Steve

    Steve Active Member

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    pull your tuning slide out and play C major or push it in and play Bb major :wink: its so much easier than learning sharps :?
     
  8. BottyBurp

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    Insist on blowing your water out at that precise moment? Take your valves out and mess with them? :wink:
     
  9. The Cornet King

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    ooooh.....shall be listening now Chris....dont worry, i believe all the cornet section has the same B major run, it just goes like a canon.

    Better get practicing!!! :D :D
     
  10. WhatSharp?

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    Join a second section band and play Kaleidascope instead :D
     
  11. iggmeister

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    One of my most esteemed playing colleagues has a name for this technique. He calls it 'turkey valving' and tends to employ it quite often to varying degrees of effect! Also known as a 'Ted Rodger's' in some circles I understand.

    Igg
     
  12. Maestro

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    Considering I used to play with Matthews, I guess that's where it must have come from. :wink: :wink:
     
  13. MoominDave

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    [quote="iggmeister Also known as a 'Ted Rodger's' in some circles I understand.

    Igg[/quote]

    Hence, 321 321 321 321... Works an absolute treat for high register Tuba playing with a fluffy articulation.

    Dave
     
  14. Di

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    I've always found it easier to read in flats than sharps :oops: so how about rewriting the runs using Bn, C#, Eb, En, F#, Ab, Bb, Bn. Also if you use all three for Bb then you never have to lift the second valve.
     
  15. PeterBale

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    If you want flats, you should try Cb, Db, Eb, Fb, Gb, Ab, Bb Cb :wink:

    Good idea, though, about playing the A# on 1,2,3 :lol:
     
  16. Farmer Giles

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    nice idea !

    i'll have a practice on that later on

    many thanks :D

    FG
     
  17. stevetrom

    stevetrom Well-Known Member

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    What is all this fingering stuff about ?

    Play trombone and you don't have to worry about
     
  18. backrowbloke

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    Youce been watching our front row closely again....I thought they all just liked to wave to the basses
     
  19. GrahamCatherall

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    Hi FG,
    The alternative fingerings are as follows: (from bottom to top:
    E=3
    F#=123
    A#=123
    B=13
    C#= 3 or 123

    HTH
     
  20. Di

    Di Active Member

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    Thats what I put to start with, but my "know it all" daughter suggested using the more common accidentals, ie, the Bn rather than Cb and F# instead of Gb and I bowed to her "superior" (ha), knowledge. :( :wink:
     
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