Advice please on a strad 37

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by paul hardwick, Apr 7, 2019.

  1. paul hardwick

    paul hardwick New Member

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    This instrument plays like a new trumpet, a lot of the silver coating has come off, i was going to get it re plated, i have been warned as it may alter the tone of the trumpet, i do listen to your input on this forum, whats the opinion leave as is or take the risk an get it re plated??
    Paul.
     
  2. pbirch

    pbirch Active Member

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    I think you have to bear in mind that opinions are just that, what matters is what you want and how you feel about your trumpet. I am not a trumpet player, and can't really comment on what difference it would make (for better or for worse), and you would be best advised to talk to a professional repairer.
    You should also consider the value of the instrument and if the investment in replating it is actually worth it, but in the end it is your trumpet and your money and you have to decide
     
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  3. J. Jericho

    J. Jericho New Member

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    I'd get it replated. I'd look for someone with a stellar reputation to do it. Being able to see examples of work they've done would be nice. The risk of timbre change has more to do with prep than plating. Good refinishers don't overbuff; care is taken to ensure engraving is just as crisp as it was when the horn was new. You always pay for what you get; you don't always get what you pay for. Good luck!
     
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  4. Tom-King

    Tom-King Well-Known Member

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    Getting it replated with the same finish shouldn't change it much, if at all... Shouldn't!

    What can cause noticeable differences is part of the process - basically, to get a decent finish, any repairer worth their salt is going to remove the old finish first, then polish up the brass before it goes to plating.
    If the removal or polishing (buffing) is too aggressive, you can wind up with the brass being thinner - if you've played lightweight versions of the same instruments side by side with regular weight, you'll notice a substantial change in response and tone (some prefer this, some prefer the opposite!).

    For what it's worth, I'd say that who's doing the work is of critical importance.
     
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  5. 2nd tenor

    2nd tenor Well-Known Member

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    My vote is to leave things as they are. Plating is a cosmetic thing and risking what you have for the sake of cosmetics doesn’t make sense to me. If the instrument is simply a financial investment then I’m doubtful that the cost of replating will be recouped on some future resale and an imperfect or botched job (a risk you take) will likely give you a bill and no increase in resale value - unless you can proceed in very well justified certainty why not let someone else take those risks instead?
     
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  6. Mello

    Mello Active Member

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    " Plating is a cosmetic thing and risking what you have for the sake of cosmetics doesn’t make sense to me "


    Silver Plating adds metal to the surface of the instrument ....Laquer doesnt add metal despite it being thicker.
    There are even heavy wall instruments are available. ALL these processes vary the response of the instrument in various ways.
    its fair to say Some people prefer one or the other for pure cosmetic appeal , most pros choose an instrument for its response
    ( warm / hard /brilliant sound.....ease of blowing or hard etc even just the feel of the horn ......heavy or light to hold etc. )
    In fact some players I know have two Trumpets for different purposes Before getting shot down.. i am not talking about Eb /D/ C Trumpets.

    i believe that ; If you are really happy with the the way it plays ....leave it as it is. If you feel it was better originally , then seek the help of an acknowledged expert in the field , who will know what thickness the original maker used , he may strip it back and clean to raw brass and plate accordingly.
    after which you may still feel a difference , but adjust accordingly ... a bit like a car after a new engine has been fitted. ( not a brill comparison I admit )

    Finally I also know a player who had a cornet super customized with various cosmetic changes ..it looked fabulous......he was a principal cornet player in a decent band. Sadly after a few months of trying to get used to its changes in reponse .....he couldnt live with it and sold the instrument. .TRUE .

    Some players can easily adapt , obviously .....I did myself , even sold my instrument on the spot - after a solo engagement abroad, and bought a new one when i returned home. So to summarise, You alone can decide ...and YOU are the best person to decide....knowing your horn and knowing yourself with all the foibles you may have as we all do. ,,,,Good luck
     
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  7. paul hardwick

    paul hardwick New Member

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    I have mulled it over and am going to listen to my teacher (she i RSM Manchester) and trumpet specialist who says leave it alone and just play it.
    Thanks for the advice.
    Paul.
     
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  8. Mello

    Mello Active Member

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    I agree,.......as I said in my blurb ......"; If you are really happy with the the way it plays ....leave it as it is "
    Good luck
     
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  9. paul hardwick

    paul hardwick New Member

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    Found on ebay some silver coating material, cost £15 got it to about 99% improvement.
     
  10. J. Jericho

    J. Jericho New Member

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    Glad you're happy with it. Please let us know how well it lasts, if you don't mind.
     
  11. paul hardwick

    paul hardwick New Member

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    will do its called nushine silver plating solution
     
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