Ad Undas - to the waves!

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Spaniels Ears, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes, I've certainly played plenty of worse pieces with brass bands. I wouldn't have personally bracketed "Prague" in that description, though; it's a decent piece of music, though not a straightforward listen. Another piece that I played at Butlins not a million years ago takes the biscuit in that category for me.
     
  2. pvillers

    pvillers New Member

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    Wouldn't be another thing to do with variations and rocks would it?
     
  3. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't possibly comment.
     
  4. tuba1974

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    I enjoy playing the music, it tells a story, very hard, and will sort the bands out, very tough,
     
  5. TUBAWAY ARMY

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    You liked Prague Dave ??????????


    Personally, I like it but also liked Sleepless Cities a couple of years ago.
     
  6. johnflugel

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    I think the piece is great.
     
  7. TUBAWAY ARMY

    TUBAWAY ARMY Member

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    Another mad man !! LOL
     
  8. MoominDave

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    Not sure I'd go as far as 'great', but I'll certainly stick up for it as a piece that took a lot of harsh flak from people who weren't interested in trying to listen to it on its own terms and just wanted it to go away so that they could go back to Eric Ball and William Rimmer. There's a place for repertoire that pushes the boundaries, and goodness knows we have little enough of it. The reaction to it showed how unwilling we are as a group to experiment, and that was very disappointing.

    As a piece, it's well structured, and holds the interest with some well thought out variety, clever effects, and even the odd haunting tune. But most bandspeople even now seem unwilling to engage with the dissonant language used. It's an easier listen than some pieces that were being played by bands 30 years or more ago, but you wouldn't think it to hear people talk.
     
  9. All4Brass

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    We get chance to chat with Gareth Churcher, composer of the Butlins First Section test piece ‘Ad Undas (To the Waves)’ . During the interview we find out a little more about the piece and Gareth offers some advice to bands ahead of the weekend. http://www.all4brass.com/musicnews.html
     
  10. casanova

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    A4B: Does the work feature any quotes from other pieces of music or reference to any other works?


    GC: No, I felt it important to have totally new material.

    Anybody care to comment on that little gem? ;)
     
  11. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

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    Samuel Barber's lawyers, mayhap?
     
  12. Laserbeam bass

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    I was merely stating a point about what you said about humming the tune. My point was that as it is referenced within the piece so many times, the likelihood of humming it, even after 1 rehearsal is pretty high.

    If my conductor had written a piece that was selected for a major competition, I personally would keep my own council, so as not to risk getting caught up in discussions that I would feel I should defend.
     
  13. ben16

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    LOL

    "had you ever used Sibelius before writing this piece?"
    "GC: no, but I think I managed to use all the symbols in one go"
     
  14. MoominDave

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    Credit where credit's due, though, at least we haven't had reams of errata to work through, unlike the 2nd section bands. There are some moments of curious scoring, but few actual glaring errors, which outdoes most new contest piece releases for band.
     
  15. johnflugel

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    I meant 'Prague' is great ;)

    I have no issue with Ad Undas - it works fine.
     
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