Decided to kill some time by comparing the 4barsrest world rankings vs brass stats to see if there were any major discrepencies. (Greater then 2 places) I have discounted overseas bands to keep the comparison relevant. Interestingly there seemed to be the inklings of a trend emerging. The big beneficiaries in the 4bars rest rankings are: Whitburn + 10 places (Links with British Bandsman editor and/or rankings compiler?) Reg Vardy + 4 (No conspiracy theory to offer here) Tredegar + 3 (4br editors nationalistic benevolence?) BTM + 3 (ditto) Tongwynlais Temperance + 3 (ditto) (Also Cory are 1 place higher however there is, as yet, no room for further promotion to higher than 1st place) Worryingly, other than Desford, the southern bands seem to fare badly in 4bars rest rankings: GUS minus 10 places Redbridge - 6 Wingates - 6 Camborne - 5 Flowers - 4 The issue is that if contests are going to use rankings as a basis for invitations (such as the English Nationals) then a system open to scrutiny such as brass stats must be superior since it provides a breakdown of points earned. If the 4barsrest rankings are to be used for anything other than "a bit of fun" and for them to be considered as unbiased then points awarded per contest should be disclosed. Otherwise they lay themselves open to the sort of slapdash analysis contained in this post.