2nd Section National Results

Discussion in 'The Adjudicators' Comments' started by Roger Thorne, Sep 21, 2003.

  1. Roger Thorne

    Roger Thorne Moderator Staff Member

    2nd Section National Final Results

    Position - Band - Draw

    1. Hatfield Coal Power, 7
    2. Bollington Brass, 1
    3. Lanner & District Silver, 8
    4. Langbaurgh Brass, 16
    5. Arbroath Instrumental, 4
    6. Houghton Brass, 10,
    7. Old Silkstone, 15
    8. Manx Concert Brass, 14
    9. Broseley Brass, 17
    10. Brighton Silver, 18
    11. Newmilns & Galston, 9
    12. Penclawdd, 11
    13. Wantage, 6
    14. Llanrug, 5
    15. Lympstone South West Telecoms, 12
    16. Darley Dale, 13
    17. Stourport-on-Severn, 2
    18. Shirley, 3

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    http://www.4barsrest.com/news/detail.asp?id=1382

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  2. Baldeagle

    Baldeagle Member

    Well done Bollington, a great result from number one spot. And well done to my old school friend Peter Christian in the middle. Peter don't drink the Swan dry when you get home :guiness
     
  3. frisp

    frisp Member

    This is a very quiet thread!!!

    Congratulations to the National Champions-but Old Silkstone were better that 7th, weren't they??
     
  4. The Judge

    The Judge Member

    Yes, I thought they'd have "wiped the floor" with everyone :wink:
     
  5. Bluebottle

    Bluebottle Member

    They had a really gd sound but i think the adjudicators thought it was too "aggressive" in places :?:
     
  6. floral_dance

    floral_dance Member

    I heard old silkstone and had them marked in the top three.
     
  7. traceybostwick

    traceybostwick New Member

    2nd section national finals

    Thanks for comments re:- Old Silkstone Band, we thought we had played pretty well too. Anyway looking forward to pontins, wilkinsons and butlins contests now. :D [/url][/list][/list][/code][/quote][/u][/i][/b]
     
  8. Pythagoras

    Pythagoras Active Member

    Well done to the Doncastrians! At least I assume this is Hatfield near Donny?
     
  9. JohnnyEuph

    JohnnyEuph Member

    I was playing for Hatfield Coal Power on sunday... I dont know what 4barsrest were listening to at the time, but in my opinion Hatfield's performance was fantastic, and more to the point, the only 'Split free' performance i heard all day!!! (if anyone's not convinced there's a recording to which proves that), On the other hand though, I definetely thought Silkstone would have been in the top 3.
     
  10. yorkyboy

    yorkyboy Member

    I felt 2nd section came down more to the interpretation by the adjudicators. Hatfield were a little less agressive more musical, silkstone (IMO) were better but more aggresive.
     
  11. hairyspuds

    hairyspuds New Member

    Nope :lol:

    Hatfield were living a dream
     
  12. Bluebottle

    Bluebottle Member

    we didnt hear hatfield on stage coz they were in front of us but heard a bit in the practise room and they sounded really gd, stressed, but gd!
     
  13. Ej

    Ej New Member

    Dundee Finals Section 2

    I felt Silkstone were severly peanalised at the weekend in Dundee. The band were marvellous. As some have said " we have the Cd to prove it"!!! so do we and the band sounds class! The balance and warmth for section 2 was fenominal. Yep there were a few bars of horn intonnation and a few minor clips here and there but we are talkin about second section banding and as i beleived the test piece was to work out thwe best band not the one who interpreted the piece the best. I think this is the problem with contests and until this is resolved along with making sure experience is in the box contesting will remain a lottery!!!

    Anyway, as they say thats banding and its done with now. Were livin to fight another day!! STRONGER THAN BEFORE >>> BEWARE!!!!!
     
  14. TrevorK

    TrevorK New Member

    .. for what ?? Surely the best band IS the band who interpreted the piece the best and with fewer mistakes , tuning problems or clips ???
     
  15. yorkyboy

    yorkyboy Member


    Inerpretating the piece is a subjective matter
     
  16. yorkyboy

    yorkyboy Member


    Inerpretating the piece is a subjective matter
     
  17. Mrs Fruity

    Mrs Fruity Member

    If interpretation were not taken into account, would the best band be one which played every note in its place, without clips and blips, exactly to the tempo markings and "previously arranged" dynamic markings (i.e f is x decibels, mf x decibels, etc.) but sounded robotic and like a lump of wood?????
     
  18. JessopSmythe

    JessopSmythe Active Member

    Possibly not the ideal solution, but at least we'd all know what we're aiming for. Interpretation is such a subjective thing. Our conductors interpretation of Kensingto Concerto was based on a recording of a winning performance at another contest adjudicated by Roy Newsome. We played reasonably well but got slated for poor interpretation by..... Guess who!
     
  19. Moy

    Moy Active Member

    Hey that's contesting folks.
    I am sure we could all say we have gone to contests where we feel we played well and got nowhere and also have played badly and been in the prizelist. I know I can anyway.
     
  20. JessopSmythe

    JessopSmythe Active Member

    That wasn't a gripe about the results, it was a query on adjudicator consistency. Our interpretation was very similar to a winning performance, praised for it's interpretation by the same adjudicator yet he didn't like ours. There were only one or two comments about actual playing. This kind of inconsistency is what makes contesting such a lottery.

    Repeat. I am not wingeing about our result. We had a fantastic weekend and really enjoyed ourselves. Thats what it's all about really.
     

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