Unless the attitudes of these 2 bands have radically changed I don't think they care about entering any contest. Try to book either of these bands and witness the difficulty in booking either band anytime soon and the fee. I think you will see why their priority is their concert schedule (the real reason they don't enter the masters). In addition, the format for this new competition (as I understand it) will by no means ensure you will be listening to either of these bands. Competitions are an expensive business (as I'm sure you know). Another contest will only interfere with an already hectic concert schedule and I think many of our "top" bands will be reluctant to enter another privately run competition. The Europeans is great fun and it's an honour to feel you are representing your country but as Faireys demonstrated in 2003, financial considerations are paramount. I believe that if you ask the members of Dyke or Grimey they will tell you that the only ones worth winning are the Nationals and the Open ("real contests" as a certain Mr Derek Jackson once informed me) and they are still the finest places to hear the best our movement has to offer and the envy of the banding world.